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Old 05-27-2015, 07:11 AM   #11
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I'm not sure about other places, but the few stores I shop, donate food to food shelves. So I'm not sure what you are taking about.


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Old 06-23-2015, 01:28 PM   #12
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I was in Pizza hut once with a few friends from work. We were sitting there talking when the lunch crowd had left.
There was lots of food being tossed into trash cans. From the "all you can eat" bars.

I asked them why they were throwing away the food. They told me it was against the law!
That they were not allowed nor where there any way to save it or to send it anywhere. Whole pizzas and salad items right into the trash.
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Old 06-23-2015, 02:08 PM   #13
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I was in Pizza hut once with a few friends from work. We were sitting there talking when the lunch crowd had left.
There was lots of food being tossed into trash cans. From the "all you can eat" bars.

I asked them why they were throwing away the food. They told me it was against the law!
That they were not allowed nor where there any way to save it or to send it anywhere. Whole pizzas and salad items right into the trash.
Yes it is mindless bureaucracy. Thankfully there are people, called dumpsters, who take advantage of this practise and retrieve food relatively in tact from where it is disposed. I say power to them! I don't care if it is dubious, i.e. possibly illegal - what matters to me is that the food has not been wasted.
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Old 06-23-2015, 02:11 PM   #14
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Yes it is mindless bureaucracy. Thankfully there are people, called dumpsters, who take advantage of this practise and retrieve food relatively in tact from where it is disposed. I say power to them! I don't care if it is dubious, i.e. possibly illegal - what matters to me is that the food has not been wasted.
The people are called "freegans" or dumpster divers because the comb dumpsters for usable food and/or other items.
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Old 06-23-2015, 04:56 PM   #15
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One reason given by restaurants, etc, that they don't want to donate food is fear of being sued. However, that is a lazy reason. Why? Because there is a little federal law called "The Bill Emerson Good Samaritan Food Donation Act" which pretty much bans legal action against suing anyone who donates food "in good faith". As long as a store, etc, isn't passing off spoiled food willfully, they cannot be sued. New law? Nah, it's been on the books since October, 1996. So it's not so much mindless bureaucracy as it is ignorant merchants.

Addie, Boston has had a very successful food rescue business that runs food from donors to the food banks. Lovin Spoonfuls has been around for a couple of years now. They have rescued over 2 1/2 MILLION tons of food that would have been tossed in that time. Amazing...
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Old 06-23-2015, 05:02 PM   #16
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One reason given by restaurants, etc, that they don't want to donate food is fear of being sued. However, that is a lazy reason. Why? Because there is a little federal law called "The Bill Emerson Good Samaritan Food Donation Act" which pretty much bans legal action against suing anyone who donates food "in good faith". As long as a store, etc, isn't passing off spoiled food willfully, they cannot be sued. New law? Nah, it's been on the books since October, 1996. So it's not so much mindless bureaucracy as it is ignorant merchants.
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(E) in subsection (f), by adding at the end the following: "Nothing in this section shall be construed to supersede State or local health regulations."
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Old 06-23-2015, 07:58 PM   #17
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Figures that there would be a CY...B provision. Danged lawyers.
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Old 06-23-2015, 11:06 PM   #18
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Got garlic is exactly right.

A federal law only applies to a suit that is brought in federal court.

Federal laws sometimes but not always preempt or supersede state laws. This one specifically says that it doesn't.

There are very many state and local laws that limit free food distribution.

So it's not a lazy excuse.

And it's not danged lawyers, it's Congress and Federalism.
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Old 06-24-2015, 01:07 AM   #19
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Got garlic is exactly right.

A federal law only applies to a suit that is brought in federal court.

Federal laws sometimes but not always preempt or supersede state laws. This one specifically says that it doesn't.

There are very many state and local laws that limit free food distribution.

So it's not a lazy excuse.

And it's not danged lawyers, it's Congress and Federalism.
Jennyma is right. As a former legal secretary and the friend of a lawyer, lawyers are not always to blame. Sometimes it is the silly and senseless suits that people bring to court so that laws are passed to that it puts a stop to such a waste of the court's time and expense.
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Old 06-24-2015, 11:46 AM   #20
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Jennyma is right. As a former legal secretary and the friend of a lawyer, lawyers are not always to blame. Sometimes it is the silly and senseless suits that people bring to court so that laws are passed to that it puts a stop to such a waste of the court's time and expense.
So true.
I hear people bemoaning lawyers and my retort is always "people hate lawyers until they need one".

Wait until the day comes, you need an attorney. You will be very grateful "Hopefully" you had one.
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