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Old 12-30-2007, 01:16 PM   #11
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When I was in college there was a girl in the dorms who was becoming the head of whatever Freemason thing is for young ladies of that age. There were all these protocols, I might be using a wrong term, but she had to learn them. So she asked me to help her learn them, she was having a problem doing so.

And I got to see all sorts of Freemason stuff. Yeah, I knew it was 'secret' but that only made the stuff more alluring to look at.

Frankly, I was bored to tears.

Have known a number of Freemasons, including my fil who reluctantly joined at the incessant behest of his uncle. He only attended very few meetings and was a bit disturbed I think that I knew more about the Masons than he did.

There was nothing weird, just mundane. But I guess you gotta be there.

The Shriners do a great deal of good. The hospitals are wonderful and if a bunch of folks want to get together and have a secret society that leads to all the good they do, God bless them.

Just my take on things.
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Old 12-30-2007, 01:35 PM   #12
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The order of Rainbow Girls know very, very little about the inner workings of Free Masonry. In fact one could argue....They know nothing!

...And just for clarification the "Shrine" is a Charitable Fraternal Organization committed to community service who Predicate their membership on being a Free Mason. Stated another way..The Shrine is not a part of Free Masonry.

I just googled Shriners and Free Masonry and got over 800,000 pages each Dosn't sound very secretive to me!
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Old 12-30-2007, 01:48 PM   #13
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JP, I think it would be a fitting tribute to your father for you to explore joining. Although the organization is "secret", I think most of know at least one Mason and it looks to me like a group of people who band together to perform good and charitable works as well as serve as a brotherhood and sisterhood of like-minded people. Besides, how else can you get to know this side of your father?
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Old 12-30-2007, 03:33 PM   #14
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JP, I think it would be a fitting tribute to your father for you to explore joining. Although the organization is "secret", I think most of know at least one Mason and it looks to me like a group of people who band together to perform good and charitable works as well as serve as a brotherhood and sisterhood of like-minded people. Besides, how else can you get to know this side of your father?
There is alot I dont know about my dad he died 11 years ago dont know much about his military service but he was every where including Normandy.I also know he was a sharp shooter at one point this is stuff I read in his discharge papers couldn't make sence out of some of it.Uncle Bob from what I understand a Shriner is the highest order after becoming a Mason.Alot of people dont know they started in Medieval England during the Crusades supposedly they may have had something to do with the Holy Grail. Its so interesting even the dollar bill supposedly linked to the Free Masons with the pyramid,the eye I mean isn't it kinda weird to have those symbols on the dollar bill.
When my dad died he was buried in Andersonville National Cemetary he had a Veterans funeral and by the adivise from his friends I also let them give a Masonic Funeral most I could not understand as they spoke in a language I could not understand.
One of his best friends told me that as long as I have his ring I would be helped by any Mason if I ever needed it.Its not the regular Masons ring this one has a camel on one side a star on the other, a crescent and star encrusted with diamonds on the top.I also have his Fez he used to drive one of those silly little cars like they do at parades.
Writing this makes me really miss him
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Old 12-30-2007, 04:13 PM   #15
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Miss McGrew your dad was/is an American Hero, and a exemplary man of the highest degree! You can be proud of him. The ring you describe is a Shriner's Ring. It signifies that he was a Shriner, and also a 32 Degree Mason which was a requirement to join the Shrine Fraternal Organization.

The Masonic Burial Ceremony is spoken in English...unless you are in Germany, then it's German, or if you are in France then French etc. etc. Maybe the sorrow of the hour made it difficult to understand the words. I assure you Masons do not speak some kind of Masonic Tongue! Only the tongue of there native country....
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Miss McGrew your dad was/is an American Hero, and a exemplary man of the highest degree! You can be proud of him. The ring you describe is a Shriner's Ring. It signifies that he was a Shriner, and also a 32 Degree Mason which was a requirement to join the Shrine Fraternal Organization.

The Masonic Burial Ceremony is spoken in English...unless you are in Germany, then it's German, or if you are in France then French etc. etc. Maybe the sorrow of the hour made it difficult to understand the words. I assure you Masons do not speak some kind of Masonic Tongue! Only the tongue of there native country....
Thanks UB maybe it was me but I swear it was like the man was speaking in tongues.I know he had something to do with the Scottish Rite
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For those of you who have family memento of dear ones passed I suggest that you give it back to the lodge he belonged to. Most lodge's I have been in have a display case of aprons, fez, rings, masters hats and so on honoring passed masons/Shriner's.
I have a friend who is a 33rd degree mason and they honor him by having a Christmas dinner for the poor/Seniors, who ever can come to the temple. And if you can not come they will deliver it to you, this is just a wee bit of what we do
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For those of you who have family memento of dear ones passed I suggest that you give it back to the lodge he belonged to. Most lodge's I have been in have a display case of aprons, fez, rings, masters hats and so on honoring passed masons/Shriner's.
I have a friend who is a 33rd degree mason and they honor him by having a Christmas dinner for the poor/Seniors, who ever can come to the temple. And if you can not come they will deliver it to you, this is just a wee bit of what we do
Yes I under understand but why do they keep the women out out of this society.I could never leave my dads ring to the Masons it means too much to me.So tell me is it really true that if I really needed help and I have that ring I will be helped if I really needed it? And is it not true that there are Masons all over the world?
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Old 12-31-2007, 12:33 AM   #20
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Hey everyone, and hello to you brothers in this thread. I am a Mason as well Lodge #235 in Georgia.

Just to clear up some things there are no levels above a 3rd degree master mason. The higher numbered ranks (4-33) are earned by masons who chose to join the Scottish Rite which is an appendant body of freemasonry. York Rite is another appendant body. The higher the number does not mean the higher the "power level" (or how ever you want to put it) instead the degrees of the appendant bodies of free masonry are horizontal. Meaning that a 32nd degree Scottish rite mason holds no more power than a 3rd degree Master Mason. All the higher degrees do is allow you to explore more knowledge within the appendant body you have joined.

Also the 33rd degree in Scottish Rite is a special degree bestowed upon masons who have done Great things for the community. This degree is not given out lightly (my grandfather was one) So if you do have a relative that was a 33rd degree know he was truly a great man.

As far as Masonry being a secret society, we are more like a society with secrets the main of which are our modes of recognition. I would be happy to answer any of your questions feel free to PM me.

PS: No I won't teach you the hand shake :)
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