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Old 01-04-2012, 10:33 PM   #1
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Going Green..........

Checking out at the grocery store recently, the young cashier suggested I should bring my own grocery bags because plastic bags weren't good for the environment. I apologized and explained, "We didn't have this green thing back in my earlier days." The clerk responded, "That's our problem today. Your generation did not care enough to save our environment for future generations." She was right about one thing -- our generation didn't have the green thing in “Our” day. So what did we have back then…? After some reflection and soul-searching on "Our" day here's what I remembered we did have.... Back then, we returned milk bottles, soda bottles and beer bottles to the store. The store sent them back to the plant to be washed and sterilized and refilled, so it could use the same bottles repeatedly. So they really were recycled. But we didn't have the green thing back in our day. We walked up stairs, because we didn't have an escalator in every store and office building. We walked to the grocery store and didn't climb into a 300-horsepower machine every time we had to go two blocks. But she was right. We didn't have the green thing in our day. Back then, we washed the baby's diapers because we didn't have the throw-away kind. We dried clothes on a line, not in an energy gobbling machine burning up 220 volts -- wind and solar power really did dry our clothes back in our early days. Kids got hand-me-down clothes from their brothers or sisters, not always brand-new clothing. But that young lady is right. We didn't have the green thing back in our day. Back then, we had one TV, or radio, in the house -- not a TV in every room. And the TV had a small screen the size of a handkerchief (remember them?), not a screen the size of the state of Montana. In the kitchen, we blended and stirred by hand because we didn't have electric machines to do everything for us. When we packaged a fragile item to send in the mail, we used wadded up old newspapers to cushion it, not Styrofoam or plastic bubble wrap. Back then, we didn't fire up an engine and burn gasoline just to cut the lawn. We used a push mower that ran on human power. We exercised by working so we didn't need to go to a health club to run on treadmills that operate on electricity. But she's right. We didn't have the green thing back then. We drank from a fountain when we were thirsty instead of using a cup or a plastic bottle every time we had a drink of water. We refilled writing pens with ink instead of buying a new pen, and we replaced the razor blades in a razor instead of throwing away the whole razor just because the blade got dull. But we didn't have the green thing back then. Back then, people took the streetcar or a bus, and kids rode their bikes to school or walked instead of turning their moms into a 24-hour taxi service. We had one electrical outlet in a room, not an entire bank of sockets to power a dozen appliances. And we didn't need a computerized gadget to receive a signal beamed from satellites 2,000 miles out in space in order to find the nearest pizza joint. But isn't it sad the current generation laments how wasteful we old folks were just because we didn't have the green thing back then?
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Old 01-04-2012, 10:53 PM   #2
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The current "Green" movement is better than nothing but has it's ludicrous side too.

Going "green." Obama and his push for solar panels for heating. He allowed billions of tax dollars to be poured into that "green" effort. Man is he "green", only one thing...a long term green ($) expenditure commitment of another kind is needed by homeowners in a time of increasing financial difficulties. It made our prez look good to those "green" minded enthusiasts tho. Now the gov't is in the hole billions of dollars on that "green idea." (disclaimer: the above was not meant to be political in any way).
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Old 01-04-2012, 11:24 PM   #3
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Back in the old days we had fewer people. Maybe the biggest green of all would have been having fewer future generations. (And the benefit of having fewer to complain.) More people pollute more. We wouldn't have as big a problem if we had controlled our numbers more conservatively. I never hear that, that maybe fewer people would be better. That's the biggest green of all to me. Three people create 50% more pollution than two people. Look at China for an example of the future and of where population growth leads.
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Old 01-04-2012, 11:48 PM   #4
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Back in the old days we had fewer people. Maybe the biggest green of all would have been having fewer future generations. (And the benefit of having fewer to complain.) More people pollute more. We wouldn't have as big a problem if we had controlled our numbers more conservatively. I never hear that, that maybe fewer people would be better. That's the biggest green of all to me. Three people create 50% more pollution than two people. Look at China for an example of the future and of where population growth leads.

That's why China has its one child per household policy?
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Old 01-04-2012, 11:57 PM   #5
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Yeppers, and isn't working. You can't impose that from top down. That's what's wrong with Communism, central control doesn't work. Gotta be from bottom up. Won't work in US until we realize we don't have a pollution problem, we have a population problem.

Well I've said too much. I expect I'll wish I hadn't posted in this topic at all.
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Old 01-05-2012, 12:20 AM   #6
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Boy, I have a feeling this topic is going to turn ugly real fast.

Isn't this a cooking forum? There are plenty of other web sites out there where people can freely slam each other's political beliefs. It really doesn't belong here.
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I think I've said too much, and I regret what I've said. I think future "green" topics should be restricted to discussing vegetables.

Do apologies work in this DC forum? I should have never replied to a political topic. As I've said elsewhere, politics should not be discussed at the dinner table.
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Boy, I have a feeling this topic is going to turn ugly real fast.

Isn't this a cooking forum? There are plenty of other web sites out there where people can freely slam each other's political beliefs. It really doesn't belong here.

It is posted in the Off Topic/Jokes forum for a reason. Read, reminisce, laugh and enjoy!!
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Old 01-05-2012, 06:42 AM   #9
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Boy, I have a feeling this topic is going to turn ugly real fast.

Isn't this a cooking forum? There are plenty of other web sites out there where people can freely slam each other's political beliefs. It really doesn't belong here.
I only meant to add comedy relief.
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Old 01-05-2012, 07:05 AM   #10
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Patty1,

I think that is a great post!

I personally think that going green should be more about the appropriate use of technology and many of the things that can save us are simple passive approaches like those outlined in the post.

Many years ago Jimmy Carter, remember him, asked us to turn down the heat and wear a sweater. Another one that I read recently in a cookbook about the great depression encouraged us to walk to the grocery store if we wanted to save money and lose weight. The idea was that you would only buy the few items you really needed if you had to carry them and you would get some much needed exercise in the process. We live in a world where the obvious, simple solutions to many problems are overlooked or rejected in favor of expensive high tech solutions.

What are your little green secrets that save a few pennies and may save the world?
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