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Old 07-31-2008, 12:00 PM   #31
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All new dishwashers now heat the water when it gets to the DW. The problem is, that it's a very expensive way to heat water. You are using electricity rather than natural gas or oil to heat the water.

The water temp in the DW has to be anywhere from 160 F to 190 F depending on the cycle you select. Your water heater should be set to no more than 120 F. So the DW has to bring the temperature from whatever goes into the DW to what it needs.

If you put cold water in, it will take more electricity to get it to 160 F.
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Old 07-31-2008, 12:05 PM   #32
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The water temp in the DW has to be anywhere from 160 F to 190 F depending on the cycle you select. Your water heater should be set to no more than 120 F. So the DW has to bring the temperature from whatever goes into the DW to what it needs.

If you put cold water in, it will take more electricity to get it to 160 F.
I don't make my wife heat hot water.
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You're quite the gentleman GB!!!
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Old 07-31-2008, 12:13 PM   #34
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All new dishwashers now heat the water when it gets to the DW. The problem is, that it's a very expensive way to heat water. You are using electricity rather than natural gas or oil to heat the water.

The water temp in the DW has to be anywhere from 160 F to 190 F depending on the cycle you select. Your water heater should be set to no more than 120 F. So the DW has to bring the temperature from whatever goes into the DW to what it needs.

If you put cold water in, it will take more electricity to get it to 160 F.
We always run the kitchen faucet first to bring up the hot water, or we will run it right after doing the hand wash items. The dishwasher uses very little water so I would think it would be more efficient for the dishwasher to heat the water rather than keeping a hot water tank heated to 160 24/7.
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Old 07-31-2008, 12:13 PM   #35
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We have two oil burners. One for the main house and another for the family room/office. We keep the family room turned off for the winter (except holidays!) For the rest of the house, we installed a propane fireplace that heats the kitchen and den. We close the doors to the living room and dining room and turn the furnace way way down. The upstairs is cool but we bought a heated blanket to warm it up before bed. We don't have children that live with us so it's easy to keep cool. We are both gone all day but the propane heat does it's job quickly when we get home. I thought I was going to hate not being toasty warm but now during the hot days of summer I find I can't stand being hot. The oil tank still needs to be filled and it always shocks us.
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Old 07-31-2008, 12:28 PM   #36
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...I would think it would be more efficient for the dishwasher to heat the water rather than keeping a hot water tank heated to 160 24/7.

If you don't keep a water heater going all the time, which is the usual way of doing things, then you are correct. If you keep a water heater going for showers, hand washing and other needs, it's the cheapest way of heatng water.
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Old 07-31-2008, 02:44 PM   #37
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GB, sell your house and move here! For what you could get for it in the northeast, you would get a new 2400 sq ft home in Ozaukee County, which Forbes just named the #2 place in the country to raise kids. You'd have a babysitter (me!) and you can give up oil heat.

(I hear my sister yelling at you to ignore me from 6 states away.)

Seriously, tho, not having the pool this summer has saved us literally thousands of dollars. What a waste! Our last gas bill was 43 bucks. Our electric and water come together, and that was something like $60.
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GB, sell your house and move here! For what you could get for it in the northeast, you would get a new 2400 sq ft home in Ozaukee County, which Forbes just named the #2 place in the country to raise kids. You'd have a babysitter (me!) and you can give up oil heat.

(I hear my sister yelling at you to ignore me from 6 states away.)

Seriously, tho, not having the pool this summer has saved us literally thousands of dollars. What a waste! Our last gas bill was 43 bucks. Our electric and water come together, and that was something like $60.
we moved out of NJ because of high property taxes. Perhaps your area is less expensive.
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I still love our pool though and am not ready to give of up. Especially after this year. We have had a great time in it this summer. Osh even took two full naps in there (in my arms of course).

While Darls family is still around we will have to stay local. At some point we will move someplace warm warm warm.
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we moved out of NJ because of high property taxes. Perhaps your area is less expensive.

Hm, guess it's time to update my profile. As of May 1, we live in Wisconsin. We didn't leave NJ because of the high taxes, but we sure weren't sorry to say goodbye to them!
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