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Old 01-12-2007, 02:38 AM   #11
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stirblue, it's easy to me to spot hungry people- i see them daily & thier appearance speaks volumes.

& if someone is silly enough to buy stuff they obviously cannot afford despite thier lack of $$, that's thier own naive frivilousness. have to wring me dry to get me to offer them pity. people ought be aware of thier finances & not purchase these items when they cannot nourish themselves & thier babies.
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Old 01-12-2007, 03:02 AM   #12
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profound.
leaving said conversation cause others tend to be less rude.
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Old 01-12-2007, 03:54 AM   #13
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Food, clothing, & shelter and money are not the only things people will ask for in life.
People ask for directions.
People ask for the time of day.
People ask for recipes.
People ask for pens.
People ask for pay raises.

People take cpr classes and give blood.

Think of all the times that you were given a smile.
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Old 01-12-2007, 04:54 AM   #14
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I give food too rather than cash. On the local radio station I used to liusten to in London there is often an ex homeless guy who says food is better, but to still be aware that food can be bartered for drink/drugs. I know what he is saying, but then if people have jobss and money they can spend that on rubbish too, so the odd sandwich is ok in my book. I got in trouble giving too close to home a couple of years ago though, its a safety risk and you need to be careful. That was blankets, we were having a clear out and a few older but still warm blankets were given away, but unfortunately word got out. I have a couple of regulars in London, people who I see regularly and offer something. Its a policy DH and I have. Therer have been many refusals of offers of food rather than cash. The funniest one was when DH had bought two sandwiches expecting to meet be but I had to cancel, he offered the spare sandwich to a guy who looked cold and miserable who replied "No mate, I just had fish and chips, I only like hot food". But, someone else got the sandwich.
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Old 01-12-2007, 09:58 AM   #15
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When I first moved to England, there was a man who used to sell The Big Issue (a magazine sold on street corners by the homeless, who then receive money for what they sell, and access to resources such as drug counselling, shelter and job assistance)

I had no friends at the time, and he used to talk to me every single morning, asking me how I was etc.

I started bringing him a coffee or soup (since the magazine only came out once a fortnight!)

He had fallen into a heroin habit, and had finished rehab, and was trying to put his life back together again.

He gave me a lot more than I ever gave him, and taught me a lot about not judging people.
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Old 01-12-2007, 12:39 PM   #16
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Fraidy, you've done what many of us wish we had.

Maybe next time, you'll "deliver" a homemade sandwich to Steve.
It's doubtful I'll venture into the alley next to the strip mall... there's sort of a 'hobo camp' back there, shades of the 1930's Depression era camps formed by people who road the rails. While Steve is a friendly sort I'm not at all sure about the others who reside there. As a female I would not feel comfortable in doing that. I'm sure you can understand that.

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Old 01-12-2007, 01:06 PM   #17
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& if someone is silly enough to buy stuff they obviously cannot afford due to thier lack of $$, that's thier own naive frivilousness. have to wring me dry to get me to offer them pity. people ought be aware of thier finances & not purchase these items when they cannot nourish themselves & thier babies.
While I certainly agree about the not having babies and frivilous spending thing, you're talking to a middle aged woman who has been out of work for 3 years. People aren't exactly lining up to hire someone who will be 50 in a few short years. If I didn't have 25 years worth of savings and loving parents of means, I'd be on the street.

I don't spend "frivilously". I shop with coupons; I shop sales. You won't see me at the grocery store stocking up on sodas and cookies and crap. You'll see me buying vegetables (fresh when in season, frozen otherwise). You'll find me buying inexpensive fish, beef, pork, cheese, milk. Right now I'm planning to go buy some eggs so I can make some cornmeal griddle cakes for breakfast.

I'm betting Steve won't have breakfast, except for his bottle. But when I see someone like Steve on the street, grateful for a sandwich and a tiny bag of chips, I think "That could be me."

Yes, you have to take things into account. There are shysters out there. And there are people who buy million dollar houses who can't afford to furnish them, too. They are not my concern. My concern is for people who don't have a dime to their name. I am unemployed but I pick up extra cans of food and donate them to the food bank. (Unfortunately the food bank cannot accept frozen or fresh foods, they don't have the storage.)

I don't begrudge someone a "gourmet" meal at a soup kitchen because trust me, what some think is gourmet is not what I think is gourmet under those circumstances.

Now, if someone tells me they get individual beef en croute (repleat with goose liver pate or duxelles under the puffed pastry) and roasted white asparagus with a lovely garlic/herb sauce and steamed new potatoes with butter and dill weed, then tell me where to line up! Other than that, vegetable beef soup and a slice of bread doesn't cut the "gourmet" label mentioned previously.

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Old 01-12-2007, 01:59 PM   #18
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I will never turn my back on anyone; not even you.
Succinctly put, StirBlue, and very empathetic.
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Old 01-12-2007, 04:12 PM   #19
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When I started reading this thread last night, I thought, what a nice thing to do. Now, reading more, I see, that we have begun to disagree about, food or money to homeless people. I believe all of us deep inside have a desire to help, be it with food, money or kind words. Be it homeless, abused children, the sick..Its that feeling deep inside that whispers, that could be my brother.So, if there is compasion in our being for our fellow man, a respect for life, why can't we respect the opinions and feelings of our fellow members? We might not agree, but if you are allowed to give your opinion without question, isn't your DC neighbor allowed his? Don't we welcome newcomers saying how great this place is? Don't we say, what great, kind and thoughtful members? Do we prefer the forum this way, or do we want to come to a point where we wonder to ourselves, do I dare post this recipe? Will someone be angry about how I spell, my grammar, the way I choose to provide food and shelter to others? I hope,we will all, think about each other and take a moment before replying to certain theads. Remember, all of us, have feelings and we should respect them..
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Old 01-12-2007, 05:17 PM   #20
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When I started reading this thread last night, I thought, what a nice thing to do. Now, reading more, I see, that we have begun to disagree about, food or money to homeless people. I believe all of us deep inside have a desire to help, be it with food, money or kind words. Be it homeless, abused children, the sick..Its that feeling deep inside that whispers, that could be my brother.So, if there is compasion in our being for our fellow man, a respect for life, why can't we respect the opinions and feelings of our fellow members? We might not agree, but if you are allowed to give your opinion without question, isn't your DC neighbor allowed his? Don't we welcome newcomers saying how great this place is? Don't we say, what great, kind and thoughtful members? Do we prefer the forum this way, or do we want to come to a point where we wonder to ourselves, do I dare post this recipe? Will someone be angry about how I spell, my grammar, the way I choose to provide food and shelter to others? I hope,we will all, think about each other and take a moment before replying to certain theads. Remember, all of us, have feelings and we should respect them..
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I could not agree with you more, kadesma. We definitely should all be allowed our opinion (within legal limits and site policy, of course). But in any type of conversational forum such as this, that freedom of opinion must be allowed in subsequent replies as well, provided it is not abusive or insulting and provided it remain relatively on-topic. Otherwise, we might as well not have any exchange of ideas and just post one-comment threads.

We're all adults here. We should be able to respect one another enough to allow for our differences and not just for our similarities, so that we don't end up hearing only echoes.
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