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Old 07-28-2006, 12:22 PM   #21
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We moved to Utah to be near my son, and to escape the heat, humidity and pollution of Houston. We landed in a beautiful custom, contemporary home on the side of a mountain looking into a canyon. The view is great.



If you are not Mormon, however, steer clear of this place. From the totally absurd liquor laws to the church run executive, legislative, and judiciary systems...they are in charge, don't care if you know it, and if you don't like it leave...
We are.
Be careful how you paint a group of people. I am a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latterday Saints, and live on the Canadian Border in Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan. I know from first hand experience that Mormons in Utah don't represent the views of the Church in the greater world. That is, the LDS people as a whole, are warm, freindly, and gracious to a fault. We tend to be freindly and not look down our noses at anyone else. In fact it is a part of our proclamations that we live in harmony with everyone else, not forcing our own beliefs upon others.

Unfortunately, whenever a group of people get together in large numbers, be they hockey jocks in high-school, , a particular religeous group, or cowboys in Texas, they take on unique group dynamics and tend to protect their own beliefs in sometimes irrational ways. Utah is like that. I have known many a Latter-Day-Saint who was turned off by the restirictive, and sometimes snub-nosed beliefs by some of the members living in Utah. And yet, there are great people there as well.

It is never a good idea to paint all members of a group, be it race, ethnicity, or political beliefs by the same paintbrush. There are good and bad in every demographic.

As for where I'd like to live, it's right here where I'm at. I'd just like to change the attitudes of our local people here. I would change the City Council to a group who loved the youth, from new-borns to young adults, and who would like to provide quality things for them to do. I would also like to see clean, valuable, and good paying jobs in the area so that all of our kids didn't have to move to find careers. I long to live in a place as beautiful as where I'm at, but where people genuinely care about each other.

I have lived in so many places and in so many different communities, and countries. And there were wonderful and rediculous things about each of them. I don't care for gossips. I don't like people who feel it's there buisness to make others unhappy. I don't like people who are full of themselves. And I don't care for people who believe that obatining knowledge is stupid, or square, or not cool. Planned idiocy is not a good way of life.

I'll get off my soapbox now.

Oh, and except for the "categorizing of people" part of this post, the rest is not meant to be a reflection of you, Hopz. I understand your frustration at Utah's sometimes rediculous behavior. Some of the people there need to learn the humility that they are supposed to demonstrate to the world.

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Old 07-28-2006, 12:38 PM   #22
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When I went to Costa Rica, it was 106 in shade! Their seasons are opposite of ours. I was there in late May. I was on the Pacific coast too. I think it might be in only the 70s in the very high elevations but its also extremely humid there (rain forest). It is a very lovely part of the world.
That must be the part I am thinking of. I know of a guy that cultivates a rainforest there, and that is who I heard the 70s weather from. They could see the volcano on a clear day from where they live.
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Old 07-28-2006, 12:50 PM   #23
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I love the home we just bought in November!
So, rather than relocating, I'd rather do the following:
move dh's work here (he's currently got a 1-1/2 hr. commute each way)
move my parents & sister to this area
and, while I'm at it, I'll take some snow in the winter too.
Except for most everyone commuting fairly long distances, Southern California has it all.... No one lives more than a 30 min. drive to the snow. Santa Monica Mts, San Bernardino Mts, Cuyamaca Mts, etc. The beach is only a 60 min or less drive too. You can surf in the morning and ski in the afternoon..... Not many places like that in the world .
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Old 07-28-2006, 01:01 PM   #24
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We have to wait until Paul retires but.. the condo in Mexico will be waiting for us.

Then there's the family house in Greece that we'll visit when ever poss.

BUT... HOME is here. It's where we belong. It's where our friends are.
It's close to our families but not too close. It's HOME. I doubt we could ever leave it for another place forever.
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Anywhere that doesn't get cold !
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My husband and I are planning to relocate every summer, starting next year, hopefully. He's an R.N. and I'm a teacher but take the summers off. He'll be taking on 8 or 12 week assignments and come back home for the remaining 9 month school year. We'd rather have the kids in a stable place while they're in school then travel during the summers. The first place we'd like to temporarily move to is Hawaii, next Colorado, then Arizona and NM. Once we find the place we like, we'll just stay and forget about Texas.
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Old 07-28-2006, 02:16 PM   #27
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The first place we'd like to temporarily move to is Hawaii, next Colorado, then Arizona and NM. Once we find the place we like, we'll just stay and forget about Texas.
Hawaii or Colorado, or both! Depends on what you like to do though.
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Old 07-28-2006, 03:48 PM   #28
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Goodweed- it was/is not my intention to "paint" a whole group of people. I agree that I know some really nice LDS members, and I also know some who are the opposite while pretending to be of the faith.

Also, I am/was not offended by any of your comments. I hope mine did not offend you- it was not my intent.

I am only alerting others that while this part of Utah is gorgeous- living here does come with some "baggage". Part of that baggage is awareness that the leader of the church runs things here, from owning the leading newspaper and tv/radio station, to strongly influencing (directing) all aspects of government. If that's not so, let me know.
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Old 07-28-2006, 05:29 PM   #29
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Goodweed- it was/is not my intention to "paint" a whole group of people. I agree that I know some really nice LDS members, and I also know some who are the opposite while pretending to be of the faith.

Also, I am/was not offended by any of your comments. I hope mine did not offend you- it was not my intent.

I am only alerting others that while this part of Utah is gorgeous- living here does come with some "baggage". Part of that baggage is awareness that the leader of the church runs things here, from owning the leading newspaper and tv/radio station, to strongly influencing (directing) all aspects of government. If that's not so, let me know.
No offense taken. I know you by your posts to be a person worthy of respect. I just didn't want others taking exception to what you said. I know from personal experience how innocent comments can be misconstrued and so was merely warning you to take care.

And I agree with you whole heartedly that there are certainly people in a community that can make life difficult for others. The youth in my home-town have little to do, and no future because of our "ruling-class" around here. It is a pet peeve of mine. But I don't live within city limits and so can't even vote in city elections. It's maddening to see mean-spirited people occupying powerful local positions.

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Old 07-28-2006, 05:39 PM   #30
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Well Italy was beautiful... Bermuda i could live there *except for winters* its dreary but i had sucha good time there not sure if it was the people i was there with the sun sets or the pink sands or all of it lol

But australia is where id like to live now :) - one of my dearest friends are there and i miss the conversations
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