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Old 03-10-2006, 03:45 PM   #11
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You didnt answer any of the questions I asked you in my last message.

Come on Probe Boy. Lets hear your answers.
Its like driving to a different COUNTRY to find a job when you havent really looked in the cities around you. And you dont know WHATS in the other country.
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Old 03-10-2006, 04:21 PM   #12
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I only see two questions that you asked and I answered one of them. The other question, "What are we looking for out there that is more important than discovering what we have here?" is not a fair question and also was answered by my answer to your other question. I said that we should not put all of our eggs in one basket. Why should we only explore this planet. Why not expore here AND outer space?

As far as what do we expect to find...How knows, but look at all that we already HAVE found. If we have found that much already don't you think we will continue finding more? We have only scratched the surface of exploration.
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Old 03-10-2006, 04:44 PM   #13
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My questions: what is going to be done with this new data?
How has ANY of these probes helped humanity?

You said: "As far as what do we expect to find...How knows, but look at all that we already HAVE found."

The things that have been discovered by probes.... what, if anything possitive has come out of them except happy scientists? Also, logically speaking.... would it not be more logical to put the 3.5 billions dollars in a SPECIFIC discovery-ended mission (ie: getting away from oil dependancy) as opposed to "lets send this really expensive probe out to this planet. Why? Ummmmm.... cause we MIGHT find a really NEAT water gyser. What are we going to DO with it... IF we find it?? Ummmmmm..... take some pictures and get really excited!! Whats that you say? Is that worth 3.5 BILLION dollars? Well YEAH! Im not paying for it, so why not??? Sure we could help out our country by doing OTHER things with the money.... but just THINK how happy you are going to be when you see the AWSOME blow-hole in a planet...... that is..... IF there IS one."
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Old 03-10-2006, 05:19 PM   #14
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Boy, are you in a bad mood, Sush..........

Tell the old guys - Captain Cook, Magellan, Vasco de Gama -- and Christopher-f-ing-Columbus, fer cryin out loud -- that it was all a waste of time and money.
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Old 03-10-2006, 06:13 PM   #15
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James Cook: sailed to chart the land for war reasons.

Magellan: Wanted to find a route to the Moluccas. If Magellan could reach the Moluccas from the West, Spain's wealth would surpass all other countries. He sailed around the world.

Vasco da Gama:Established trade route from Europe to India. He was a pirate and murder. " At one point, da Gama waited for a ship to return from Mecca, and seized all the merchandise; they then locked the 380 passengers in the hold and set the ship on fire. It took four days for the ship to sink, killing all men, women, and children."

Chris Columbus: While on a voyage of exploration for Spain in search of a direct sea trade route to the Far East, Christopher Columbus unintentionally discovered the New World.

All these folks went for a reason. For expanded trade. (and or war advantages) More trade = more money and better living. Have to say I learned a lot researching these guys!!
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Old 03-10-2006, 06:16 PM   #16
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Nasa is out there trying to learn about how the earth was created. If there is more life out there. Looking for new ways to do things better that we already do here. Looking for new materials to do those things.

They are not just jumping in a spaceship and going for a joy ride. Each launch has many different purposes.
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Old 03-10-2006, 06:37 PM   #17
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How the earth was created: to what benefit??? and maybe they should finish exploring the sea 1st. Hey why not explore your backyard before going across town?

To see if there is more life: Let them come to US. Im in no rush to find out. I rather findout answers to more pressing questions.

Looking to improve ways of doing things: Why do we have to send muli-billion dollar probes to a planet to see a big blow-hole to accomplish that?

Looking for new materials:We can do that on earth just as easily by exploring the ocean.

Again, Im not against obiting satelites that are beneficial. Im against spending tax dollars on something that is a fun toy for astronomers and scientists. You still didnt answer my 2 questions:

What is going to be done with this new data on the gyser?
How has ANY of these probes helped humanity?
How has finding this thing changed anything? Why should I care about the gyser except for it being 'neat'?
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Old 03-10-2006, 06:46 PM   #18
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What is going to be done with this new data on the gyser?
This goes to prove that life could possibly exist elsewhere. You can't tell me that that is not worth a few billion to find out.

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How has ANY of these probes helped humanity?
How has finding this thing changed anything? Why should I care about the gyser except for it being 'neat'?
I am not exactly sure which probes you are talking about. there have been many many probes that have been launched, each with a different purpose.
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Old 03-10-2006, 06:48 PM   #19
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ok ok ok everybody behave or I am pulling the car over, and letting you guys out

just teasin.. just thought I would break up the tension a bit :)
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Old 03-10-2006, 06:50 PM   #20
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I guess we DS and I should post a message that he and I have discussed this in PM's and want to assure everyone that we are not fighting, but just having a lively converstion. One of which we are on opposite sides. We are still very much friends and don't want anyone to get the wrong idea that this is a fight
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