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Old 12-02-2007, 08:47 PM   #11
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Unfortunately, composition is one of the first classes to be lost to budget cuts. Before that class comes art, music appreciation, shop and home economics.

Too many people say it is the message that counts, and not the way it is received (or delivered). Hogwash, I say.
I agree especially if you enter the business world or in any other world you dont want to come across as a complete moron and kids need to learn this.Its called the three Rs reading,writing and arithmetic.Out west its reading,riding and roping
Americans are not famous for good schooling but in Europe and Asia its a really serious issue.
One of my pet peeves is when some says pitchers instead of pictures I have met college graduates that cannot spell to save their lives.I never went to college but I can spell better than some.
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Old 12-02-2007, 08:56 PM   #12
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Guess I'm from that "old school" place because I think the letter should've been written correctly. Yes, the message needed to get out but, since it came from an educational institution, it should also have been properly done.

I feel fortunate that I had awesome English teachers in my formative years and equally capable ones while in college.

The language (both written and spoken) of our youth has become sloppy, IMO, and that saddens me.
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Old 12-02-2007, 09:13 PM   #13
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As a hiring manager in business, I was instantly turned off by any resume containing spelling or grammatical errors. Considering how important a resume is in getting you an interview, one would expect it to be perfect. So many were not even close.

I used to lecture my children on the importance of making a positive first impression in the manner of dress, as well as spoken and written language. First impressions are very difficult to overturn.

I always try to write with correct grammar, punctuation and some style. I usually reread and spell check my posts to ensure there are no errors because I think that's important. Everything we write can be viewed by thousands of people and we will be judged by what they see.
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Old 12-02-2007, 11:36 PM   #14
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The speed of the message should have nothing to do with grammatical and spelling errors. It's not like they didn't have time to write it, copy it and distribute it. It could be done in a day and be done correctly. I would definitely say something about it. It does reflect on the leadership of the school. While it is good to let kids know we grownups make mistakes, we still need to set a good example for them for them to follow.
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Old 12-03-2007, 12:16 AM   #15
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without a doubt, it should have been proofread and corrected before it was sent out. it's from the place that is charged with educating your children, for god's sake. if they can't write properly, what other shortcomings are they offering your kids?
regardless of whether you'd be "that lady" or not, you should bring the fact to their attention. if nothing else, they'll realize that you're on top of things and might be more interested in your kids' education, since you obviously are.

i mean, don't embarrass anyone, but a phone or other private conversation can't hurt.

this reminds me of a letter that i received from the ceo of my company, les moonves, as a congratulations on my 20th anniversary on the job. my wife has written thousands of letters and drafted hundreds of leases in her jobs as a commercial real estate manager and while running a law office. every single i must be dotted and t crossed in both of those types of documents or it's cause for said document to be useless and thrown out.
well, when she read my congratulatory letter from the head honcho, she was amazed at the number of mistakes. this is from the office of a guy who makes $100k per day, and his secretary can't write to save her life. dw wanted me to post it at work after she was able to take a red marker to it to point out the numerous errors, but i'd like to make it to 21 years, so i declined.
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Old 12-03-2007, 12:40 AM   #16
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A couple of mistakes are "ok" but if a letter sent home to parents by a professional representative of the school is full of grammatical and spelling errors then I would feel very uneasy myself, especially with the ease of using spellcheck. I agree with others in sharing your concerns with the school office.
If you're interested you should be able to find out how your child's school performed overall on achievment scores, district wide literacy tests, state required assessment tests, etc., and against other schools in the same city district, as well as compared to other districts in the state. Our Houston Chronicle publishes all of that info every year. Quite interesting!
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Old 12-03-2007, 05:01 AM   #17
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A couple of mistakes are "ok" but if a letter sent home to parents by a professional representative of the school is full of grammatical and spelling errors then I would feel very uneasy myself, especially with the ease of using spellcheck. I agree with others in sharing your concerns with the school office.
If you're interested you should be able to find out how your child's school performed overall on achievment scores, district wide literacy tests, state required assessment tests, etc., and against other schools in the same city district, as well as compared to other districts in the state. Our Houston Chronicle publishes all of that info every year. Quite interesting!
When did it become socially acceptable for a couple of mistakes to be okay? Are we, as the receiver of a letter, not entitled to excellent communications?
I disagree with you. I don't believe a couple of mistakes are okay.
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Old 12-03-2007, 06:01 AM   #18
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It should be 100% grammatically correct. His teacher's wouldn't let their students get away with that, therefore he shouldn't be allowed to :). I would've brought it to his attention and expressed to him that his lack of grammatical correctness leaves you wondering what kind of education your children are getting.

LOL you should mark his letter/mistakes with red and send it back with a big question mark on it :)
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Old 12-03-2007, 07:14 AM   #19
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Having worked in a school for 13 years, I find it unacceptable to get anything from an authority figure that is grammatically incorrect!! While he/she may dictate it to a secretary, said secretary is able to spell check or use a dictionary! I can. You have every reason to expect this from the office of the High School Principal.
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Old 12-03-2007, 07:57 AM   #20
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The same thing happens at the school where I work. It is unacceptable.
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