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Old 02-27-2014, 03:02 PM   #81
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If the animal is being poisoned, would the vet be within his rights to report the owner for animal abuse? Just a thought.
If a dog accidentally consumed to much alcohol, would the owner be charged with a crime?

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About the amount of tax charged, that was one of the things that got it legalized in the first place. The proponents all said the amount of tax charged would go a long way in helping the financial crisis become less dire.

As far as the govt listing it as illegal yet having a tax system in place, do not forget that it is legal in the state but still illegal federally. Two different systems. Also, do not forget that it is still in the itsy bitsy beginning stages of its infancy. It has only been legal in the state for less than 2 month.
I get it GB. Money does the talking.

As far as taxes go. The local sale tax has zero to do with the federal taxes owed on an illegal product. I should have been more clear in my post.
I can see how local taxes allowed this to become a reality. No tax income, no legal pot.

But how can the federal government say this is illegal, yet require federal income taxes be paid on the illegal product?
The government is collecting money from these folks, but then turn around and say its illegal.
But yet the feds require and accept the money.
This is the point. If its illegal, then why do they require and collect tax from this product?

Anyway, watch the show if you get a chance. You then can see what I am trying to write.
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Old 02-27-2014, 03:04 PM   #82
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If the animal is being poisoned, would the vet be within his rights to report the owner for animal abuse? Just a thought.
I don't believe so as it is (supposedly) unintentional.
If it could be proven that it was done on purpose... maybe... Tough call as dogs (fortunately) are still considered property, so it's not like if your three year old kid got into your stash or you gave your kid too many laced brownies.
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Old 02-27-2014, 03:09 PM   #83
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If a dog accidentally consumed to much alcohol, would the owner be charged with a crime?



I get it GB. Money does the talking.

As far as taxes go. The local sale tax has zero to do with the federal taxes owed on an illegal product. I should have been more clear in my post.
I can see how local taxes allowed this to become a reality. No tax income, no legal pot.

But how can the federal government say this is illegal, yet require federal income taxes be paid on the illegal product?
The government is collecting money from these folks, but then turn around and say its illegal.
But yet the feds require and accept the money.
This is the point. If its illegal, then why do they require and collect tax from this product?

Anyway, watch the show if you get a chance. You then can see what I am trying to write.
Just playing devils advocate here, but why shouldn't the government be able to tax something just because the person taxing it is breaking the law?
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Old 02-27-2014, 03:25 PM   #84
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Here there's what's called a Drug Tax Stamp. Anyone busted for illegal drugs is also charged with not purchasing a stamp for their illegal drugs. Which makes absolutely no sense.
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Old 02-27-2014, 03:39 PM   #85
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Here there's what's called a Drug Tax Stamp. Anyone busted for illegal drugs is also charged with not purchasing a stamp for their illegal drugs. Which makes absolutely no sense.
I do not agree with the practice as I think it should be legal, but why does it not make sense. The person breaking the law has the ability to purchase the stamp and pay the taxes on the drugs. If the stamps were not available for purchase then I would agree it makes no sense.
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I do not agree with the practice as I think it should be legal, but why does it not make sense. The person breaking the law has the ability to purchase the stamp and pay the taxes on the drugs. If the stamps were not available for purchase then I would agree it makes no sense.
It amuses me that someone would be expected to go to the courthouse and request to purchase a drug tax stamp for their illegal coke and such. Like that wouldn't be a red flag
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They are expected the person to not be breaking the law in the first place.
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Just playing devils advocate here, but why shouldn't the government be able to tax something just because the person taxing it is breaking the law?
Because by accepting proceeds from an illegal transaction is party to the transaction. If that makes any sense.

Similar to the banks position regarding accepting funds from M businesses.
The local government has told the banks not to worry and to allow electronic transfers. But the bank, knowing the federal law, refuses to put themselves into a position they can avoid, by not accepting or allowing electronic transactions.

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Here there's what's called a Drug Tax Stamp. Anyone busted for illegal drugs is also charged with not purchasing a stamp for their illegal drugs. Which makes absolutely no sense.
In the US there was something like this many years ago. The stamp was required, but anyone with half a brain knew if they tried to access the stamp, they would be arrested.
I remember reading about this stamp, but my knowledge is not good enough to really make any comments regarding it. I just don't know the history well enough.
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Old 02-28-2014, 12:46 PM   #89
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Because by accepting proceeds from an illegal transaction is party to the transaction. If that makes any sense.
They are not accepting proceeds from an illegal transaction. They are taxing the illegal transaction and accepting the taxes. There is a difference. Granted it is almost just a case of semantics, but just almost.
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Here there's what's called a Drug Tax Stamp. Anyone busted for illegal drugs is also charged with not purchasing a stamp for their illegal drugs. Which makes absolutely no sense.
That Federal Stamp is the same one for any smoking product.
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