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Old 03-11-2011, 04:02 AM   #31
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I would not encourage doing anything negative (rubbing the dog's nose in the poo/pee, etc.). Instead, I would encourage you to devote your energy to taking her out, waiting until she does her business, and giving her a "high value" treat (boiled chicken liver, steak) and marking it with a work (I prefer the word "yes" but you can use whatever word works for you--cool, woohoo, whatever). Wait her out, clean up after her (human error--she's just doing what dogs do--) and make sure she doesn't have a medical condition that is making her poo before you can get her outside.
I was brought up in sheep country, my best friends where farmers, in lambing season I shot a number of dogs all owned by incomers who swore when we visited them their dog never got out, we offered to train them some agreed the others were visited within a week with the body of their pet and a bucket containing the fetus of a few lambs.
The training, we would pick a large old ram and tie it to the dog using a 6 ft rope and leave the ram to batter the dog. They will never chase a sheep again.
I had a Staff Bull terrier that bit the heads off 20 of my mums chickens, Puck was put on death row, a neighbouring chicken farmer brought a cage that his muzzled head fitted into alone with to big roosters, Puck got a pardon. I never broke any of my ponies using a whip spurs lunging reign or brutality, a friend taught me this native American method, release them into a very muddy pond then mount up, the horse cannot buck and soon gets it into his head you are smarter than him.
Most pack animals need a leader, all leaders are create by brain not brawn.
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Old 03-11-2011, 04:57 PM   #32
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There are those who say if a dog kills a chicken, tie the dead chicken around the dog's neck...some dogs have more drive than others...my DH's dogs kill small animals...kittens, skunk kits...they are the breeds that are hardwired to do that. There is nothing you can do about that. The breeds I have and rescue (need I mention that we have to live in two separate houses because we do not agree on how to handle dogs...and have different breeds with different drives), don't have prey drive and don't have a tendancy to kill small animals. They are "nanny dogs" and want to protect the young. Most dogs, regardless, will not eat the animal they kill. They shake it to death, but don't eat it. This is the difference between dogs and wild canines. The domestic dog, after shaking the other animal, goes "oh sh*t, it's dead" and walk away. And, FWIW, dogs that attack and kill other animals ARE NOT necessarily a threat to children. This is a misconception people have--OMG, the dog attacked a squirrel and killed it, it will attack children--put the dog down. This is unfair and a misunderstanding of dog behaviour.
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Old 03-12-2011, 04:26 PM   #33
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Day 6 (if you count Monday, when we got her, and today). One thing we noticed was very loose stools, even diahrea. Husband finally said, why not buy her a a bag of the food we fed the other dogs? He intended on using most of the bag they gave us, mixing, then starting on the bag I bought. But, frustrated, he just switched to the stuff I bought (both were dry food; I'm a huge believer in it, especially when house training) and she firmed up within hours. It has to add to her self-control. Anyway, if you count all movements, she's at about 50%. Given that I think she's lived most, if not all, of her short life in shelters (she's been at our very high reputation Safe Haven no-kill shelter since Dec/Jan according to the vet records, but they acquired her from a regular humane society, I think when they got crowded and thought they'd have to put her down), I don't think that's bad. It is fun that we occasionally run into acquaintances we didn't know volunteered there, and they are so delighted.
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Old 03-13-2011, 12:47 AM   #34
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Well done Claire and partner, have you named the pup?
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Old 03-13-2011, 01:22 AM   #35
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Bolas, my husband has always wanted to name a dog Rosebud. He never had a dog in his life until I met him, and I have to say I over-road his desire to name his first, then second, dogs Rosebud. I rolled my eyes and said, "Do you really want to name your dog after a sled?" This year his reply was that it was the most precious possession. So, since she didn't answer to the name we were provided with (with all good intentions, the local humane society named her Kat because she looks like a Meerkat when she stands on her hind legs to look at things), she didn't answer to the name, and had probably either not had a name before that, or maybe two before that. It's hard to say. but after 5 days she's answering to Rosebud, her housetraining is getting there (more quickly than I'd have thought) , and she is a real lover.
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Old 03-13-2011, 03:08 AM   #36
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Claire, I simply must congratulate you on your new addition!! What a lucky gal(the pup I mean) LOL!! As far as the name Rosebud, well, my own DD would be thrilled to bits over the name - Rosebud is the name of one of AIRBUDS pups from the Disney movies. There were 5 pups from that litter, &, well, Disney has made quite a few movies just about the pups alone - Rosebud is FAMOUS!! :)
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Old 03-13-2011, 09:17 PM   #37
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Oh, I just sent my husband to an early bed (not a grave, mind you), and Rosebud, like my previous doggies, loves those damned afghans, and is dead asleep behind me on one of them. And, yes, Merlot, she is lucky, but I am as well, because as frustrated as I get with hubby, they're a good match as well. This afternoon a neighbor came over with his 3 kids (children, that is, not goats!), aged about 2, 8, and 12. It was a good socialization hour or two. I know this sounds stupid, but the kids aren't real dog lovers (the family is very busy and wisely, IMO, stick to cats, which are, to me, better pet selection if you never know who is going to be home, when). So it was a great socialization hour. The children, unlike real doggie-loving kids, didn't rush her, run to pat her, etc., which can really frighten a new dog. They were more, "oh, hi Rosebud, nice to meet you" pet-pet and on to the next interest (they were here because the eldest young man wanted to look at my husband's history books). But getting used to them a bit at a time is a good thing.

When they came in, she peed, but, did it discretely. How funny. I expect a dog that hasn't lived in a house for a week yet to, well, get excited and not be able to control it. But she's doing so well.
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Old 03-13-2011, 09:21 PM   #38
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Oh, she was named for the sled in "Citizen Kane", I didn't know about the Disney movie. Will look it up!
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Old 03-20-2011, 09:12 AM   #39
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Update on New Puppy: Rosebud has been almost completely house trained. The change in diet made all the difference in the world. Hasn't made a mistake in a week.

Next job: teaching her to not be over affectionate with new guests (ironically, my usual problems with dogs have been over-affectionate or even mean children. With her it is jumping up to kiss friends who are not dog people).

She has the "sit" command so down pat that we only have to think of maybe giving her something she wants and she'll sit patiently and wait for it.

Anyone out there know a good web site or book for training. I'll admit to being lacksadaisical with my last two dogs, who, by-the-way, had cat temperament (in other words, looked at us as if we were insane and walked away from any treat rather than do what you were trying to get them to do).

Rosebud seems very eager to please, is already the love of the neighborhood.

I've got potty training pretty much done (not kidding). I'm looking at getting her to come on command and stay in sitting position.

Right now she's scared to death, because we have a thunderstorm rolling through.

Anyway, point of this post is that I went through a couple of books I have about dogs, and are going to donate them to the library, because they really aren't helpful.

Anyone know a good site on dog training?
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