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Old 07-04-2008, 07:09 AM   #61
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Holy cow look at all thses posts!
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Old 07-04-2008, 08:18 AM   #62
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I'm 40 something and dont regret not having the pitter patter of little feet in the house, with the exception of cats. Even after I was out of high school i dated once but it turned out not to be what I expected.

On the other hand pets seem to fill the void anyway. I have nothing against raising little ones i just feel i dont have the patience nor the funds to do it.
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Old 07-04-2008, 08:41 AM   #63
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Aw, come on. There's a lot of good right alongside the bad. Think of all the cool technologies we have. We have way more free time than lots of our ancestors. We have amazing medical technology. I could go on for hours naming the good. We just have to teach our kids to face the bad, stand up to it, or ,make it better and enjoy what's good.
Don't get me wrong, I don't think we have a horrible world here right now, and I do enjoy the wonderful technology that lets us chat here and has extended our life expectancies.

But I'm just not sure enough of a good world to grow up in and to be adults in afterwards for my kids (if I had them).
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(...)I disagree that a valid reason would be that the world we live in gives them nothing to inherit. What world was there a hundred or a thousand years ago? What would those parents have said? Did they know that we would develop antibiotics? Make huge advances in medicine, economics, education, technology? Their chances of living an easy life were certainly a lot less than those born today. They had hardships we can only imagine. I did have children, three of them and all grown up. Was it a good decision? To me yes, the time of my life. Is it right for everyone? No I think not. Did I make a point? Probably not!
I don't know what my decision would have been in the world of a hundred or a thousand years ago, as I didn't grow up in that and don't know if I would have had a similar outlook then. As far as I'm concerned, it's good that you disagree. I hope you're right. I hope that I turn out to be wrong about this. But since I don't personally foresee a good future for them, I'm not going to be bringing kids into the world.

My thanks to all for your acceptance of my views, especially Barbara L, Maverick2272, Fisher's Mom, MexicoKaren and whoever else chimed in to support my saying what I did (I don't think I missed anyone, but if I did), as I was a bit nervous posting it.

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Old 07-04-2008, 08:46 AM   #64
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Just want to say I hope I haven't offended anyone starting this thread.
I don't fault anyone for any decision in thier own lives. Kids are NOT for everyone!
Russell you have a valid point and I contemplate that every day. I think glass half empty most of the time.... gotta turn that around!
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Old 07-04-2008, 08:54 AM   #65
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Suzi, I can only speak for myself, but I don't see any way that you might have offended anyone by starting this thread. It has been a good and worthwhile conversation.

And I agree that the decision to have kids is very personal. I don't generally inflict my gloomy views on potential parents. They've got enough to consider without my input!
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Old 07-04-2008, 09:05 AM   #66
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My daughter is also 10, and is in a training bra... or so I am told cause she is still my little girl and I am in complete denial... but she isn't going around stuffing it, and she is not wearing it for kicks it is something she needs.
I have heard they believe there is a link to BHG in milk and girls developing early, they also have found data suggesting overweight girls will develop more quickly than girls that are at or below their recommended weight.
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Is bovine growth hormone (bGH) a health concern in meat or dairy foods?

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Bovine growth hormone (bGH or sometimes rBST) is not used in livestock raised for beef. Dairy cattle are not usually slaughtered for meat for human consumption. These two points make meat and beef products unlikely food sources of bGH for humans.

The bGH used in dairy cattle to enhance milk production is a growth hormone for cows but not for humans. The bGH is not recognized as a growth hormone by human cells. Also, the bGH is a protein that is broken down into smaller fragments (peptides and amino acids) during digestion. So people who drink milk from bGH treated cows should break down bGH when they digest the milk.

While short-term studies have not indicated other effects of bGH (allergies or other effects), more long-term studies on possible effects of bGH are needed. We have written a fact sheet that addresses consumer concerns about the use of growth promoters and hormones in livestock and dairy cattle. Please see Fact Sheet 37 "Consumer Concerns about Hormones in Food".
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I'm most certainly not offended, and if I were I wouldn't have answered! Joy of forae...you can post or not!
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Thanks lulu and Russell I feel better now....
Still waiting for a sitter.....
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Never had kids never wanted them. I have friends who had them and wish they didn't, friends who never had any and are happy and friends who have kids and love them to pieces. It is all a matter of choice and fate. We made the choice long ago and have never questioned it, we knew that we would not be good parent material. I will be a good kitty parent, they never ask for the car.
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It's not true: FAQ
Not conclusive. A quick Googling shows Monsanto money funding Cornell studies.
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