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Old 08-14-2008, 08:50 AM   #21
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Wish I thought of this, I could use the money.

Wouldn't change anything, its still disturbing.

The clip focuses on those with Empty Nest and loss of child, what about those who get these dolls as an accessory?

Are they really any different than any other Poser?
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Old 08-14-2008, 11:09 AM   #22
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Too bad they don't have these "babies" crying and keeping them up all night. We'd see then how popular they would be.
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Old 08-14-2008, 11:42 AM   #23
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but what's the difference between childrens realish dolls which go toilet and breathe and these things, other than they look real?
A huge difference.
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Old 08-15-2008, 07:01 AM   #24
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Why do you think that, Lee?
I think we will see more and more of anything that will fill needs and wants of people, without the inconvience, mess, and stress of the real thing.

Materials and electronics are advancing at a record pace, and are being formed into products that look like babies and pets now, probably kids and adults in the future.

We are a society who will keep manufacturing and buying things that are new and trendy, at least partially fill a void in our lives, are easy and convenient.

Consider this email I received recently - it was an eye-opener for me!

THE YEAR 1908 (email)


June 02, 2008 01:15 PM EDT
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This will boggle your mind, I know it did mine!
The year is 1908.
One hundred years ago.
What a difference a century makes!
Here are some statistics for the Year 1908 :
************ ********* ********* ******

The average life expectancy was 47 years.

Only 14 percent of the homes had a bathtub.

Only 8 percent of the homes had a telephone.

There were only 8,000 cars and only 144 miles of paved roads.

The maximum speed limit in most cities was 10 mph.

The tallest structure in the world was the Eiffel Tower!

The average wage in 1908 was 22 cents per hour.

The average worker made between $200 and $400 per year.

A competent accountant could expect to earn $2000 per year,
A dentist $2,500 per year, a veterinarian between $1,500 and $4,000 per
year, and a mechanical engineer about $5,000 per year.

More than 95 percent of all births took place at HOME .

Ninety percent of all doctors had NO COLLEGE EDUCATION!
Instead, they attended so-called medical schools, many of which
Were condemned in the press AND the government as "substandard. "

Sugar cost four cents a pound.

Eggs were fourteen cents a dozen.

Coffee was fifteen cents a pound.

Most women only washed their hair once a month, and used
Borax or egg yolks for shampoo.

Canada passed a law that prohibited poor people from
Entering into their country for any reason.

Five leading causes of death were:
1. Pneumonia and influenza
2. Tuberculosis
3. Diarrhea
4. Heart disease
5. Stroke

The American flag had 45 stars.

The population of Las Vegas, Nevada, was only 30!!!!

Crossword puzzles, canned beer, and ice tea hadn't been invented yet.

There was no Mother's Day or Father's Day.

Two out of every 10 adults couldn't read or write.
Only 6 percent of all Americans had graduated from high school.

Marijuana, heroin, and morphine were all available over the counter at
the local corner drugstores. Back then pharmacists said, "Heroin clears
the complexion, gives buoyancy to the mind,regulates the stomach and
bowels, and is, in fact, a perfect guardian of health." ( Shocking? DUH! )

Eighteen percent of households had at least
One full-time servant or domestic help.

There were about 230 reported murders in the ENTIRE U.S.A. !

Now I forwarded this from someone else without typing
It myself, and sent it to you and others all over Canada & U.S.A
Possibly the world, in a matter of seconds!

Try to imagine what it may be like in another 100 years.
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Old 08-15-2008, 07:09 AM   #25
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I see it must be because people are treating them as children. That is a bit weird, but if a kid had one would it just be like them having a more realistic doll? They seem to think they toy dolls are real too.

Also I read that humans don't like AI type things having a human looking face. Creeepy! :)
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Old 08-15-2008, 10:29 AM   #26
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I'll put this into shortest words possible.
In security at an airport, I commented to an older gentleman about his darling little baby he was holding, until HE PUT IT THROUGH THE CONVEYER BELT. Everyone around me was astounded, we were in shock as was the security person running the belt.
The 'dad' laughed gently and assured all of us it was okay.
It was not a real baby. I jumped in and said, "What? Yes it is, I'm a mom, I know these things." He was such a sweetheart very calm like he's gotten this many times.

He had gone into an auction and his bid won on this doll. He did tell me what his winning bid was, and again, no reason to keep that in my memory bank so I didn't, but do remember thinking that was quite a good reasonable price. He did tell me what he wanted it for or why he wanted it which I don't remember, but he let me hold her. I got all snuggly with her and he just smiled and said, "Exactly."

When I walked away with his business card in my hand, I wondered if my mother [who suffers from dementia after strokes and brain bleeds] would be more happy in life if she had one.

It was breathtakingly beautiful.

I have to add, I didn't have sound on while watching this clip so if there was odd freaky stuff being said, I only saw, didn't hear.
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Old 08-15-2008, 12:27 PM   #27
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...I wondered if my mother [who suffers from dementia after strokes and brain bleeds] would be more happy in life if she had one...
I would see that as something acceptable. The part I had a problem with was people substituting them for a real child. For instance, a mom whose child had died, a woman who miscarried, or a woman who can't or doesn't want to have a child of her own.

As far as children playing with dolls with some realistic qualities, they are playing and preparing for someday having a real baby of their own. My daughter loved her dolls and had one very realistic looking one. She treated that doll very tenderly and was a great mom to her. But she knew it was a doll and not a real baby (evidenced, in part, by the fact that she occasionally swung Cindy around by her feet and threw her in the air, and she never did that with her two children! lol). My fear (which echoes those brought up in the interview) is that some of the people buying these dolls won't know the difference. It would be one thing for a person suffering dementia, as mentioned above, but (to me anyway) something altogether different for the average healthy person who should be interacting with other humans, or even a pet, rather than a pretend baby.

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Old 08-15-2008, 12:44 PM   #28
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After reading all the posts on this, I have not seen any comment about using these so called babies in classrooms, I think there are some schools that have a class or program about teenage pregnancies and they have to care for an egg or doll like it was a real baby to show how much responsibility it is .
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Old 08-16-2008, 02:12 AM   #29
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After reading all the posts on this, I have not seen any comment about using these so called babies in classrooms, I think there are some schools that have a class or program about teenage pregnancies and they have to care for an egg or doll like it was a real baby to show how much responsibility it is .
They do use special dolls for those programs, where a doll cries, has to be "fed," changed, rocked, etc. If the "mom" or "dad" does not attend to the baby's needs, it does not stop crying, and I believe some kind of computer technology tracks it. I'm not sure how real the babies look, but it would be good if they did look fairly real.

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Old 08-16-2008, 12:18 PM   #30
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I'm not sure how real the babies look, but it would be good if they did look fairly real.

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I'm not so sure about that Barb - babies, like puppies, are cute...then things change...............................they need to be as uncomfortable as they can be!!!!
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