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Old 06-25-2014, 08:53 PM   #661
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Aw, bummer Pac. How old is she?
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Old 06-25-2014, 09:23 PM   #662
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Oh no, so sorry, Pac. It's so hard to let them go.
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Old 06-25-2014, 09:36 PM   #663
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I'm sorry, Pac. I know how hard it is.
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Old 06-25-2014, 09:55 PM   #664
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Aw, sorry Pac.
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Old 06-25-2014, 10:33 PM   #665
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It sounds a bit like Scouts and Guides over here.
Each 4-H chapter specializes in a certain field. Either cooking, sewing, horses, dairy, swine, it all depends. I worked mostly with farm kids. I had one girl that delivered her bull and raised it from birth. She sold it at the Fair for more than $10,000. She came running back to the dorm sobbing her eyes out. The man that bought it removed it immediately from the Fair grounds. She didn't even get to say goodbye to it. He had the sperm count tested before buying it and made the offer when he got the results. Her father told her to sell. I will never forget that bull. She called it Baby Boy. What a misnomer! It was one huge Black Angus.
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Old 06-25-2014, 10:41 PM   #666
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Our 4-H group didn't specialize. We each had our own thing to do and this was encouraged. My sister did artwork, I did leather working and sewing, even did a year with a heifer. Some did dairy cows, some sheep, some pigs. Mom taught the cooking and sewing component, Dad did the leatherwork and small engines. I learned how to judge cooking and sheep. Our group was very diverse.
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Our 4-H group didn't specialize. We each had our own thing to do and this was encouraged. My sister did artwork, I did leather working and sewing, even did a year with a heifer. Some did dairy cows, some sheep, some pigs. Mom taught the cooking and sewing component, Dad did the leatherwork and small engines. I learned how to judge cooking and sheep. Our group was very diverse.
I like groups like that. You learn so much from each other. I had one girl who nicked her sheep with her clipping shears. She was getting ready for show and the wool had signs of blood. So I had my trusty spool of white thread and a packet of very pointy needles and sewed the poor thing up with blind stitches. Then I had to tell her how to get the blood out of the wool. No one ever saw the stitches.

I had a couple of kids that had a breed of sheep that are born without external ears. So many of the public accused the kids of cutting their ears off like you would dock a dog's tail. I finally had to have the sign shop make up a large sign for the public to read that this breed of sheep are born without ears. That in no way were these sheep harmed by the members of 4-H. A lot of the folks would argue with the kids when they tried to explain. Some were brought to tears. (Idiot people!)
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I once picked up a gnawed on mouse head that my cat dropped at my feet as I got home and I said, "What the heck is this?" Ackkk!

My German Shepherd's days are numbered. Yesterday she couldn't even stand unless I put a leash on her and commanded her. No tugging, she just knew I meant business. I tried to help her stand beforehand and she yelped in pain. Today she's relatively fine. Better as the day goes on. I dug her grave yesterday... Hopefully it will be a while before I put the dirt back in.
I'm so sorry, pac. I hope she has some quality time left with you. I know how hard that is.
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I didn't mean to imply that that there was no 4-H other than in farming communities, just that they are more common there.
I think that used to be true when more families lived on farms, but the program has changed as society has changed.
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It sounds a bit like Scouts and Guides over here.
It's sort of similar; we also have Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts, which are private sex-segregated organizations with dues, uniforms, etc. 4-H is a program the Cooperative Extension Service, part of the U.S. Department of Agriculture and open to anyone age 5-18 (I think). The Cooperative Extension Service was created by Congress 100 years ago as a way to extend to communities the research results of the land-grant universities (every state has one) established in the late 1800s to conduct research into agriculture and animal husbandry. That's still the basic mission, although programs have expanded into home gardening, personal finance, and other more modern topics. The Master Gardener program is also a program of the Cooperative Extension Service.

For more info, here's Virginia's Cooperative Extension Service main page: Program Areas - Home - Virginia Cooperative Extension
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