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No. It is epilepsy. They will sell you meds but any research I have done tells me they don't really help.

Roc, if epilepsy is anything in animals like it is in humans, he doesn't remember the episodes. So try to take comfort in that thought. :angel:
 
Canine epilepsy, Addison's, and hypothyroidism are three very manageable conditions pets face. Of the three, epilepsy is the trickiest. It depends on the age of onset, IME. The earlier the onset, the more difficult it is to manage. Addison's is the most expensive of the three, but can be managed with oral meds and does not always require the very expensive once-every-25 days or so injection. Hypothyroidism is probably one of the least expensive conditions a pet can have, but often can be tricky to diagnose if the vet has the classic hypothyroid Golden Retriever as his/her model. One of the things that being involved as the vet for our rescued Saints taught Dr. J. was that hypothyroidism can affect the autoimmune system, reproductive system, behaviour, weight (we've had very thin Saints be hypothyroid). It is one of the tests she now recommends when clients come in with a dog that is presenting various symptoms. I've actually gotten into arguments with vets in other locations who were caring for our rescued Saints about the levels and what they should be. The thyroid is connected to the everything. Had a dog that had been diagnosed with Cushing's but never tested for hyopthyroidism. She was hypothyroid (good thing, that made her adoptable--the meds for Cushing's were quite pricey). I am so glad that so many of the rescued Saints and Newfs gave back to Dr. J. They taught her all kinds of things about Addison's, hypothyroidism, cardiac issues, and abnormalities (one Saint didn't have any ovaries when Dr. J. spayed her--she'd read about that at school, but had actually never seen that). She is a GREAT vet, but she admits she is a better vet thanks to all the odd cases our rescue group brought to her. She donated her time and in return, she learned things that have helped other dogs (and gets paid for those consults <g>).
 
A card arrived in the mail today from the vet's office offering condolences for Joie's passing. This was in addition to the plant we received last week. I cried openly as I read the notes from staff members like "Joie was not only loved by you but all of us here", "Joie was definitely one of our favourites here. We'll really miss his sweet little face and personality", "Joie was so special, we are all so lucky to have been part of his life". And even the vet/owner - "Thinking of you - Joie was so special!".

One could say that they write these in all the cards, but both of our dogs have wiggled their way into the staff's hearts there. That is the reason that when we moved from around the corner from the office to half-way across town and still go there, even though their sister office is much closer to us now.

Now Violet's hips seem to be giving her problems again and while we are not wanting her to suffer, we are not sure we are ready to go on this roller coaster so soon again. I am going to phone tomorrow to see if we can change her medication.

Has anyone had any experience with laser treatments for dogs? They are recommending them and they cost $200 for the first 6 treatments.
 
Laser treatments other than surgery, no, accupuncture yes +1 for pain.

Not sure what you mean laser no. Does that mean you don't know anything about it or that they don't work. I really appreciate the help. Do they have accupuncture for dogs?
 
Not sure what you mean laser no. Does that mean you don't know anything about it or that they don't work. I really appreciate the help. Do they have accupuncture for dogs?

I have heard of acupuncture for dogs on more than one occassion. :angel:
 
Not sure what you mean laser no. Does that mean you don't know anything about it or that they don't work. I really appreciate the help. Do they have accupuncture for dogs?
Lasar is a "fun" thing for vets (surgical, etc.). There are canine accupuncture specialists. I have been very impressed by the results for neurological disorders. We had one rescued Saint, she had cruciate surgery (happened to be an Addisonian dog as well). The hair on the back of her leg did not grow back. The surgeon said "oh, that happens." The canine accupuncturist got all excited. It was similar to what she saw with humans--especially construction workers who had no hair growth on the front of their shins because of their boots rubbing against the skin and the nerves not triggering. She treated the dog (I think it was 4-5 treatments) and hair started to grow back. It was so cool--it grew back in tuffs. This was actually written up in a paper and presented at a conference. The dog went as a demo. A professor at Waterloo got very excited by this and also wrote it up. When my scaitica (sp) nerve acted up, I went to the accupuncturist. After 6 weeks of agony, 10 minutes of having the needles in fixed the problem. For 25 years I suffered from chronic pain in my neck. I had to turn my upper body to look over my shoulder when driving. Three treatments and I could actually turn my head enough to see over my shoulder. This was seven years ago. I can still turn my head and see over my shoulder. I was so amazed when I could do this after so many years of not being able to do so, I still marvel that I can do this. If it doesn't work after 2-3 treatments, the person usually says, "it is not working." I can email the person I know here to get some referrals in BC for you. She has gone to a number of conferences out there, so I know there are certified folks in your area.
 
I can email the person I know here to get some referrals in BC for you. She has gone to a number of conferences out there, so I know there are certified folks in your area.

Thanks, CWS, that would be wonderful. I have had very similar results as you from acupuncture for my neck and back. I am actually thinking of going back to my guy soon. He is a physio, but went back to school to specialize in massage and needles and even more specifically people (like me) with joint replacements. Unfortunately he only works on humans!
 
Thanks, CWS, that would be wonderful. I have had very similar results as you from acupuncture for my neck and back. I am actually thinking of going back to my guy soon. He is a physio, but went back to school to specialize in massage and needles and even more specifically people (like me) with joint replacements. Unfortunately he only works on humans!
Mine works on both--humans and pets (horses, dogs, and cats). She is a sports physio + accupuncturist + animals (she went to Australia to get certified to do animals). She also does IMS (a form of deep-needle treatment). That is what worked for my neck. I'll email her and find out where there are people in your area qualified to treat animals.
 
Mine works on both--humans and pets (horses, dogs, and cats). She is a sports physio + accupuncturist + animals (she went to Australia to get certified to do animals). She also does IMS (a form of deep-needle treatment). That is what worked for my neck. I'll email her and find out where there are people in your area qualified to treat animals.

IMS is what I get as well.

Thanks again!
 
Lasar is a "fun" thing for vets (surgical, etc.). There are canine accupuncture specialists. I have been very impressed by the results for neurological disorders. We had one rescued Saint, she had cruciate surgery (happened to be an Addisonian dog as well). The hair on the back of her leg did not grow back. The surgeon said "oh, that happens." The canine accupuncturist got all excited. It was similar to what she saw with humans--especially construction workers who had no hair growth on the front of their shins because of their boots rubbing against the skin and the nerves not triggering. She treated the dog (I think it was 4-5 treatments) and hair started to grow back. It was so cool--it grew back in tuffs. This was actually written up in a paper and presented at a conference. The dog went as a demo. A professor at Waterloo got very excited by this and also wrote it up. When my scaitica (sp) nerve acted up, I went to the accupuncturist. After 6 weeks of agony, 10 minutes of having the needles in fixed the problem. For 25 years I suffered from chronic pain in my neck. I had to turn my upper body to look over my shoulder when driving. Three treatments and I could actually turn my head enough to see over my shoulder. This was seven years ago. I can still turn my head and see over my shoulder. I was so amazed when I could do this after so many years of not being able to do so, I still marvel that I can do this. If it doesn't work after 2-3 treatments, the person usually says, "it is not working." I can email the person I know here to get some referrals in BC for you. She has gone to a number of conferences out there, so I know there are certified folks in your area.
LP--she's traveling and off-line until the 15th.
 
LP--she's traveling and off-line until the 15th.
Thank you for trying. If we haven't lined something up before then I will be in touch. Actually if we DO line something up I will post it here to say how Violet is doing.

She and I went for another walk today. I have to keep her short-leashed or she will pull me over (she is very strong and energetic for a dog whose back legs are only held up by muscle). But she seems to know that this is how it is with me and TB gives her the faster walks. We went almost double the distance today and while we are both tired, I think it is good for us!
 
Rosebud just got back from her first bloodwork after starting phenobarbital treatment a few months ago. All is well. A few friends have commented on her being calmer (at best guess she is older than 2 (we know that because we've had her that long) and younger than 3). Since the start of her ph treatment she hasn't had an attack, and while she isn't really lethargic, she has put a pound on. Ugh! No, not yet overweight, but doc did say to watch it.
 
Rosebud just got back from her first bloodwork after starting phenobarbital treatment a few months ago. All is well. A few friends have commented on her being calmer (at best guess she is older than 2 (we know that because we've had her that long) and younger than 3). Since the start of her ph treatment she hasn't had an attack, and while she isn't really lethargic, she has put a pound on. Ugh! No, not yet overweight, but doc did say to watch it.

Claire, how long are her walks? Spike takes Teddy to a baseball field that is fenced in. There are other folks that have their dogs there also. They can be safely let off their leash and can run to their hearts content. And run they do. Spike is determined that he will never be an obese dog. Sometimes I think he overdoes it. When Teddy arrives here after his walk, he falls asleep immediately. Then when it is time to go home, Teddy has to walk about six blocks more. In the house he is very subdued. Once he is off that leash, there is no holding him. :angel:
 
Rosebud just got back from her first bloodwork after starting phenobarbital treatment a few months ago. All is well. A few friends have commented on her being calmer (at best guess she is older than 2 (we know that because we've had her that long) and younger than 3). Since the start of her ph treatment she hasn't had an attack, and while she isn't really lethargic, she has put a pound on. Ugh! No, not yet overweight, but doc did say to watch it.

I glad it's working for her Claire!
 
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