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Old 10-15-2007, 02:54 AM   #11
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Mr. Steak you are welcome. I cannot say definitely the stuff from TX is not very good, but we go to a lot of Scottish festivals/games and have tried every haggis we could find. Have never found anyone that we could tolerate. We are not looking for the McCoy, sigh, just something that tastes OK.

Fifty bucks seems a bit dear, but would be willing to pay it (at least for Burns' night) if we could get a taste first.

Have tried to find out why we can feed lung to Snowball and Fido but cannot ingest it ourselves. Have had no luck.

I'm sure it is not the cholesterol content, TATTRAT's point well taken.

My wild guess it is some sort of bacterial thing.

But I am going to find out. And I will get back to you. This may take a while and we'll have to resurrrect this thread from where ever old threads go but will find out.

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Old 10-15-2007, 03:10 AM   #12
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Point well taken Michael.

BSE is one form of spongioform encephalitis, in sheep it is called scrapie.

And it is a concern. We cannot donate blood here because we spent too much time in the UK during the outbreak. If I MOO here ever so often, please forgive the tic.

But the prions that cause BSE reside in nerve, the reason that one could not get beef with the bone in the UK for several years.

If one was going to ban a meat from the lamb that carried the BSE, OK scrapie, one would ban lamb chops, not the bloody lung.

I tend to go with the TB theory, but do not know. And have tried to find out why.

But will try to find the answer.

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Old 10-15-2007, 04:47 AM   #13
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aunt dot, to use a brooklyn-ism, what am i, busted plumbing?

it's bt's tb theory.

the most interesting stuff i've found tonight was an old n.y. times article about how poorer people in the late 1800's, early 1900's had terrible outbreaks of tuberculosis, to the point that cities had planned to tear down entire sections of buildings to try to eradicate it. during these "inquisitions", it was discovered that improperly cooked infected lungs could spread the disease.

i don't know about you, but tb causes sores in the lymph nodes and lungs, so, ya gotta be pretty poor to eat purulent meat.

or from scotland.

(lol about the censor program, hence the use of dollar signs. somewhat ironic, in this discussion. all puss is not created equally, i guess)
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Old 10-15-2007, 06:18 AM   #14
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Lung used to be available when I was a kid. Why it is now banned I have no clue.

I would like to know because we love haggis. I know it sounds dreadful but we tried it a number of years ago in Edinburgh, after a wee dram for courage, and found it darn good.
Some of the most dreadful sounding food tends to be some of the best tasting. And I agree, haggis is darn good.
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Old 10-15-2007, 10:00 AM   #15
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so is a hot dog, but they are not banned. In comparison, a hot dog is just as bad, if not worse.

Nutrition Facts and Analysis for OSCAR MAYER, Wieners (beef franks) [frankfurter, hot dog, hotdog, wiener]
Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but according to that site, 1 serving of beef lung contains 273 mg of cholesterol (91% of the daily value), while 1 hot dog serving contains 25 mg of cholesterol (8% of the daily value). That's a pretty big difference.
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Old 10-15-2007, 07:03 PM   #16
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Interesting theories in this thread. It doesn't make sense why lung meat is processed in the USA for pet food though if there would be a reasonable chance it would be infected. I'll do more research on this as well.

Auntdot, forgot to mention there's also a canned haggis available from the same Texas company for only 8 bucks!! <insert green face here>
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Old 10-15-2007, 07:26 PM   #17
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It doesn't make sense why lung meat is processed in the USA for pet food though if there would be a reasonable chance it would be infected.
Not that I have any answers, cause I don't, but things are often not suitable for human consumption, but fine for animals.
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Old 10-17-2007, 07:21 PM   #18
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Here's the law of the land (U.S. Code of Federal Regulations):


TITLE 9--ANIMALS AND ANIMAL PRODUCTS

CHAPTER III--FOOD SAFETY AND INSPECTION SERVICE, DEPARTMENT OF
AGRICULTURE

PART 310_POST-MORTEM INSPECTION--Table of Contents

Sec. 310.16 Disposition of lungs.

(a) Livestock lungs shall not be saved for use as human food.

(b) Lungs found to be affected with disease or pathology and lungs
found to be adulterated with chemical or biological residue shall be
condemned and identified as ``U.S. Inspected and Condemned.'' Condemned
lungs may not be saved for pet food or other nonhuman food purposes.
They shall be maintained under inspectional control and disposed of in
accordance with Sec. Sec. 314.1 and 314.3 of this subchapter.

(c) Lungs not condemned under paragraph (b) of this section may be
used in the preparation of pet food or for other nonhuman food purposes
at the official establishment, provided they are handled in the manner
prescribed in Sec. 318.12 of this subchapter, or they may be
distributed from the establishment in commerce, or otherwise, in
accordance with the conditions prescribed in Sec. 325.8 of this
subchapter for nonhuman food purposes or they may be so distributed to
pharmaceutical manufacturers for pharmaceutical use in accordance with
Sec. Sec. 314.9 and 325.19(b) of this subchapter, if they are labeled
as ``Inedible [SPECIES] Lungs--for Pharmaceutical Use Only.'' Otherwise,
they shall be disposed of at the official establishment, in accordance
with Sec. Sec. 314.1 and 314.3 of this subchapter.

[36 FR 11639, June 17, 1971]

Notice the date is 1971 but I'm not familiar enough with the CFR to know if 1971 is the original date of the regulation. Is there a lawyer in the house?!?

I still haven't found out exactly why lungs were and are deemed unsafe for human cuisine in this country though!!
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