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Old 08-29-2011, 05:36 PM   #11
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2nd thing to do is to DITCH Microsoft's IE. Firefox and Chrome are both outstanding alternatives.

The 3rd thing to do is to use an ad-blocker with your browser. Firefox and Chrome have great ones ~ I do not see a single ad on this site!
download done. thank you zereh. i need ie to access chrome, kindle pc reader and firefox. i can't even boot up my computer w/o ie. can i? i have noisy ads popping up, crawling all over my screen like they own it! firefox didn't stop the ads for me though. i no longer have firefox, but if this shock wave crash is chrome connected, i will reinstall ff. thanks again.
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Old 08-29-2011, 05:52 PM   #12
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Once you install any browser other than IE you just set your preferences to make that browser your "go to". If you are on a PC just put an icon on your desktop and click on that to start browsing. If you're on a Mac, just put the icon in your Dock and you're good to go. If you use FF, use download AdBlockPlus and say goodbye to the ads.
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Old 08-29-2011, 06:47 PM   #13
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I'm quite possibly on the underside of the power curve of this topic, but here's what my "years of experience" have shown:

if you run Secunia, make sure you haven't eaten lately because it's likely to make you lose your lunch.

if you run Secunia, you'll find that most of the Adobe product updates install the new version but do not un-install the old version(s). I have super serious issues with that tactic.

why? did you ask why?

well,
(1) there's a new version because of improved function or to eliminate some "security flaw" - or both - - - -
(2) about every Window user ever born "accepts" the "default" installation locations/options/etc
kool, eh?
(3) not so kool. every nastyware programmer knows _exactly_ where to find those old, but still installed, version(s) and can easily program their "nasty bomb" to launch C:\Windows\...\Adobe-ten-year-old\flash.exe and wreak havoc.

nothing like the smell of a toasted hard drive in the morning....

I refuse to install Adobe Acrobat on my machine - it had/has/continues to have so many security flaws it's an open invitation to being 'attacked'

Adobe Flash is more difficult to avoid.

I use the Revo Uninstaller utility (free, and really good stuff) in its most thorough mode to remove all traces of Flash before installing a new version.

and, while I'm all wound up and on a rant:
- if you don't have / keep your data backed up, it was time - weeks ago.
- if you don't have a disk image of a good install, you need to research what that means.
- go to WindowsSecrets.com and sign up for their newsletter - they have a free one and "paid" subscriptions. the "paid" bit is a user selected donation - a buck a year - whatever you feel comfortably with. a lot of it may be more geeky than you every wanted to know - but a whole lot of it can alert you to a whole lot of problems. especially stuff like Windows Updates that will trash your computer....

no, no personal or business relationship to any of it.
hhhmmm, could be personal - I'm pretty dang attached to my computers . . .
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Old 08-29-2011, 06:52 PM   #14
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dc, how do you view pdf files without adobe? Or don't you?
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Old 08-29-2011, 07:15 PM   #15
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I'm quite possibly on the underside of the power curve of this topic, but here's what my "years of experience" have shown:

if you run Secunia, make sure you haven't eaten lately because it's likely to make you lose your lunch.

if you run Secunia, you'll find that most of the Adobe product updates install the new version but do not un-install the old version(s). I have super serious issues with that tactic.

why? did you ask why?

well,
(1) there's a new version because of improved function or to eliminate some "security flaw" - or both - - - -
(2) about every Window user ever born "accepts" the "default" installation locations/options/etc
kool, eh?
(3) not so kool. every nastyware programmer knows _exactly_ where to find those old, but still installed, version(s) and can easily program their "nasty bomb" to launch C:\Windows\...\Adobe-ten-year-old\flash.exe and wreak havoc.

nothing like the smell of a toasted hard drive in the morning....

I refuse to install Adobe Acrobat on my machine - it had/has/continues to have so many security flaws it's an open invitation to being 'attacked'

Adobe Flash is more difficult to avoid.

I use the Revo Uninstaller utility (free, and really good stuff) in its most thorough mode to remove all traces of Flash before installing a new version.

and, while I'm all wound up and on a rant:
- if you don't have / keep your data backed up, it was time - weeks ago.
- if you don't have a disk image of a good install, you need to research what that means.
- go to WindowsSecrets.com and sign up for their newsletter - they have a free one and "paid" subscriptions. the "paid" bit is a user selected donation - a buck a year - whatever you feel comfortably with. a lot of it may be more geeky than you every wanted to know - but a whole lot of it can alert you to a whole lot of problems. especially stuff like Windows Updates that will trash your computer....

no, no personal or business relationship to any of it.
hhhmmm, could be personal - I'm pretty dang attached to my computers . . .
is it in my best interests to refuse all windows updates, even the "important" ones? my computer often acts real squirrely for a while following updates...
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Old 08-29-2011, 07:34 PM   #16
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dc, how do you view pdf files without adobe? Or don't you?
I use Foxit - but I'm not so enamored with it anymore. a lot of its features have been moved to the "paid" version.

there are quite a few free pdf readers available.
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Old 08-29-2011, 07:42 PM   #17
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>>is it in my best interests to refuse all windows updates, even the "important" ones? my computer often acts real squirrely for a while following updates...

I have my machines set to notify me of updates, but not automatically install them.
WindowsSecrets tests the MS updates and publishes which ones should be avoided, for now...
then I go directly to MS update and pick and choose the ones I want/need.

Microsoft does not have a good track record of putting out only non-catastrophic "updates"

keep in mind, Microsoft doesn't tell you diddly about the availability of Flash/Adobe/third party "add in" software.
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Old 08-29-2011, 08:55 PM   #18
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I use Foxit - but I'm not so enamored with it anymore. a lot of its features have been moved to the "paid" version.

there are quite a few free pdf readers available.
Thanks. I didn't know anything else was out there. I hate the way Adobe is always updating everytime you run into a pdf file, but it is what it is. It doesn't seem to rock my apple cart... yet.
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Old 08-29-2011, 11:22 PM   #19
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One thing that has helped me a lot lately is System Restore. Some of the latest "updates" have made my computer to act, well, screwy. The problem lately has been a Microsoft update.

By restoring my system to the restore point just before the latest update, I've had good success getting back to "normal".

I do have to say that I've been impressed with Firefox. It's lightyears ahead of IE which has deteriorated into junk.

Yes sayin'.
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Old 08-30-2011, 07:38 AM   #20
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here's a reasonably up-to-date recap

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