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Old 06-20-2010, 08:35 AM   #11
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Even at late middle age we get sick and tired of being sick and tired. (I'm 55, husband is 63). At some point, diet-wise, you have to decide what is going to kill you, because you simply cannot live on what is left-over. I've had this problem with my mom, my friends, and my husband. You need to see a general type doctor (we used to call them GPs, but your primary care physician) with all the dietary restrictions, and find out which you are willing to live with and without. Seriously, you cannot live within some dietary restrictions and have to decide what is important to you. My husband decided that diabetes was the most important threat, and we try to keep a relatively low calorie count. But if we also did no salt, no red meat, no dairy, no ... well, all of them health issues for him ... we might as well curl up and die. I can cook a perfect vegan meal, I can cook a perfect divertiulitis meal, I can cook a perfect low cholesterol meal, I can cook a low salt meal, I can cook a low acid meal , I can .... BUT, in fact, I cannot do them all in the same meal, certainly not day after day. So, to me, sometimes it is choose your poison. And, when you have that meal of something "forbidden", enjoy it to the fullest, even if you know you will pay in the long run. What I'm getting at is that sometimes you have to live in the moment. Not every day, not every time. But when you are going to do it anyway, close your eyes and say to yourself, "I will remember this moment for the rest of my life."
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Old 06-20-2010, 02:21 PM   #12
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Even at late middle age we get sick and tired of being sick and tired. (I'm 55, husband is 63). At some point, diet-wise, you have to decide what is going to kill you, because you simply cannot live on what is left-over. I've had this problem with my mom, my friends, and my husband. You need to see a general type doctor (we used to call them GPs, but your primary care physician) with all the dietary restrictions, and find out which you are willing to live with and without. Seriously, you cannot live within some dietary restrictions and have to decide what is important to you. My husband decided that diabetes was the most important threat, and we try to keep a relatively low calorie count. But if we also did no salt, no red meat, no dairy, no ... well, all of them health issues for him ... we might as well curl up and die. I can cook a perfect vegan meal, I can cook a perfect divertiulitis meal, I can cook a perfect low cholesterol meal, I can cook a low salt meal, I can cook a low acid meal , I can .... BUT, in fact, I cannot do them all in the same meal, certainly not day after day. So, to me, sometimes it is choose your poison. And, when you have that meal of something "forbidden", enjoy it to the fullest, even if you know you will pay in the long run. What I'm getting at is that sometimes you have to live in the moment. Not every day, not every time. But when you are going to do it anyway, close your eyes and say to yourself, "I will remember this moment for the rest of my life."

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Old 06-20-2010, 03:57 PM   #13
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claire, that is exactly what i am thinking. i spent several days thinking about it. i simply can't do all the different diets. as you say then there is nothing left to eat. i think we have hit on something here. something will kill us. and at age 72 how much longer do i have anyway? if my days left, are all about staying alive , then how sad. there has to be more in living than just breathing. so i will follow what i can and just forget the rest.
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Old 06-20-2010, 04:23 PM   #14
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I'm praying for you Babe. I know what you mean about not being able to follow all the diets. If I strictly follow my Diabetes diet and my kidney stone diet I'm pretty much left with water. So I try to follow the Diabetes diet the closest (I have not had to be terribly restrictive yet, but I have made a lot of changes). For instance, with the kidney stone diet I'm not supposed to eat beans, but with the Diabetes diet I'm supposed to eat a lot of beans.

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Old 06-20-2010, 05:39 PM   #15
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I understand balking at restrictive diets. You choose live of die. If I did what I wanted I wouldn't be here to talk about it. I know you feel you are being punished but not doing what you should well you have to make the choice. Turning your back will only cut your time short. Even tho I am not allowed dairy very often if you get the problem under control there is a lot you can eat, I have to live with eating lots of protein and then I take the pills to counter act them, I have to be careful how much I drink, but I've gotten use to it,I'd rather live..Babe listen to your doctor we here at DC care about you but we are NOT doctors. See a renal specialist and let him help you
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I understand balking at restrictive diets. You choose live of die. If I did what I wanted I wouldn't be here to talk about it. I know you feel you are being punished but not doing what you should well you have to make the choice. Turning your back will only cut your time short. Even tho I am not allowed dairy very often if you get the problem under control there is a lot you can eat, I have to live with eating lots of protein and then I take the pills to counter act them, I have to be careful how much I drink, but I've gotten use to it,I'd rather live..Babe listen to your doctor we here at DC care about you but we are NOT doctors. See a renal specialist and let him help you
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Amen! (And I hope I didn't sound flippant in my response--I do believe we have to take our health very seriously. I know that as I get older, I'm having to change more and more habits--eating and otherwise).

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Old 06-20-2010, 08:16 PM   #17
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Amen! (And I hope I didn't sound flippant in my response--I do believe we have to take our health very seriously. I know that as I get older, I'm having to change more and more habits--eating and otherwise).

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