It is clear that nothing I could say would ever be enough to persuade you. I am familiar with the placebo effect but the results I have seen in myself and others are not down to being "all in our head". Ha.. Never mind. I, too, am done with this.
It is clear that nothing I could say would ever be enough to persuade you. I am familiar with the placebo effect but the results I have seen in myself and others are not down to being "all in our head". Ha.. Never mind. I, too, am done with this.
When there is a sudden, marked improvement in someone's condition from undergoing a natural therapy - which can be despite their own scepticism i.e. far from being a placebo effect - then THIS is the proof!Sorry, but you standing there saying, "I know it worked!" is not proof.
When there is a sudden, marked improvement in someone's condition from undergoing a natural therapy - which can be despite their own scepticism i.e. far from being a placebo effect - then THIS is the proof!
Incidentally I suppose you know that complimentary therapies work well alongside orthodox medicine....
Recent studies have found that a greater number of supplements than previously thought may affect the way certain enzymes in the body metabolize drugs. Some supplements may inhibit the enzymes’ ability to break down a drug and clear it from the body, causing medication to build up to potentially toxic levels and even cause overdose. Other supplements may increase the rate at which a drug is broken down, clearing it from the body too quickly to be effective.
As herbal supplements gain in popularity, medical researchers are studying the interactions and side effects supplements have on prescription medications. Botanicals, for example, can interfere with drug-metabolizing enzymes in the liver, stomach and intestines and proteins in the blood that can alter the way drugs are distributed throughout the body.
When all things are equal, i.e. the only thing that has changed in the patient's life is the natural therapy treatment, then it is not unreasonable to suppose that any positive change is due to this. Logically!No. It is not. The fact that one thing followed another does not mean that the first thing caused the second. That's a logical fallacy.
Dangerous? Really? You think doctors would recommend complimentary therapies if they thought this? This would suggest you do not have confidence in doctors to confidently administer treatment.I know people use them together. I wouldn't necessarily say it works well. It can be quite dangerous.
When all things are equal, i.e. the only thing that has changed in the patient's life is the natural therapy treatment, then it is not unreasonable to suppose that any positive change is due to this. Logically!
Dangerous? Really? You think doctors would recommend complimentary therapies if they thought this? This would suggest you do not have confidence in doctors to confidently administer treatment.
As for providing a link on supplements and how they may interact with drugs, I can't help noticing you cherrypick your info deliberately just to try and diss anything natural. If you were being more honest then you would have also included a truer appraisal of this situation, e.g. some drugs are not to be taken with alcohol, other drugs, grapefruit juice etc.
Herbalism has its place and was never meant to be a substitute for surgery.
Your knowledge is old, i.e. out of date. It is now known that echinacea is not effective for bacterial infections.Right. So if I take echinachea, my cold will go away in seven days. If I take nothing, it will be gone in a week. Clearly it must be the herb
I thought as much - you display your lack of knowledge by not discerning the difference between complimentary therapies and alternative therapies. There IS a difference, i.e. complimentary therapies ARE used with orthodox medicine....at least here in UK.Yes, really. Most medical doctors don't recommend alternative "therapies" because they're unproven and are not part of the standard of care. It would put them at high risk of being sued for malpractice. If you're talking about naturopaths, they're not real doctors, so they don't count. Don't put words in my mouth.
We're not talking about actual medical treatment here - we're talking about so-called "natural" remedies that believers in pseudoscience claim are all good with no possibility of side effects or negative interactions. Because natural. Clearly that's not true.
Oh come on...that is a very poor, redundant argument! Ha - laughable! Back then nothing else was available i.e. we didn't have the benefits of technology that we do now. This is hardly the same thing as saying that herbalism is now used to take the place of operations - that is a false statement! As mentioned, herbalism can be used beneficially with the run up to an operation and also to aid recovery afterward.Back to the beginning. Appendicitis is an infection. Before antibiotics were available, people tried to treat infections with herbs. So they were using herbs instead of surgery. Now that we have X-rays, CT scans and antibiotics, we don't need to let people die of infections anymore.
Your knowledge is old, i.e. out of date. It is now known that echinacea is not effective for bacterial infections.
You are making a sweeping statement here that is blatantly not representative of natural remedies re. that there cannot be side effects. Of course it would be foolish to use anything in excess i.e. it would have consequences. That's a no brainer. Your sledgehammer style of attack belies you wanting to give a realistic appraisal of the situation....poor show!
Oh come on...that is a very poor, redundant argument! Ha - laughable! Back then nothing else was available i.e. we didn't have the benefits of technology that we do now. This is hardly the same thing as saying that herbalism is now used to take the place of operations - that is a false statement! As mentioned, herbalism can be used beneficially with the run up to an operation and also to aid recovery afterward.
Parents of toddler who died of meningitis used home remedies rather than consult doctor, court hears - Calgary - CBC News
A southern Alberta couple accused of allowing their meningitis-infected toddler to die four years ago tried home remedies such as olive leaf extract and whey protein rather than take him to a doctor, a Lethbridge jury heard Monday.
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Crown counsel played an audio tape from a police officer who interviewed the couple after hospital staff called police.
On the tape, Collet Stephan tells the officer a friend, who is a nurse, told the couple the boy likely had meningitis.
Home remedies given as condition deteriorated
In a bid to boost his immune system, the couple gave the boy — who was lethargic and becoming stiff — various home remedies, such as water with maple syrup, juice with frozen berries and finally a mixture of apple cider vinegar, horse radish root, hot peppers, mashed onion, garlic and ginger root as his condition deteriorated.
Anecdotes are sufficient for those who have benefited and healed from their conditions. I could catalogue the many ways I have successfully treated myself but I can tell I am not talking to open minded people.Creative, colds are not bacterial, they are viral. And you know what they call alternative medicine that has been proven to work? They call it medicine. Until I see clinical trials, I am not believing it. Anecdotes are not evidence.
I never said that. You really must stop putting words in my mouth.
YOU said herbalism was NEVER MEANT to replace surgery. That story in the article shows that you are wrong - people in the past did try to treat all kinds of things with herbs, with blood-letting, with lots of unproven "therapies."