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Old 12-21-2008, 11:15 AM   #11
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This is not animal abuse Joe. These are animal tricks. This is not different then going to the circus or watching stupid animal tricks on David Letterman. No animals were hurt doing this. This is quite different from your post about kicking dogs.
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The monkey was panicing - poor thing.
You call that tricks?
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Old 12-21-2008, 11:19 AM   #12
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The two dogs, those are tricks and well trained dogs. It is weird no doubt, but dogs love to please and these dogs did that and got their reward, which leaves them happy.
The monkey, I have no idea I don't know much about them. But if it was panicking and didn't like what was going on, then yes that is abuse. But if it is trained for this, then it was all part of the act for the monkey.
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Old 12-21-2008, 11:28 AM   #13
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Circus' have trained animals to do all sorts of things and have had to change the way they do things because it was deemed their methods were cruel to animals.

Sea World had to change their methods too after too many Shamu's died from overfeeding--too many shows to entertain the families.

Just because an animal can be trained does not mean it isn't cruel to tease them.

Further, just to clarify I am not a PETA person. I am not extreme in my views on animals and am not at all political on this subject. I just don't like to see cruelty to animals.
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Just because an animal can be trained does not mean it isn't cruel to tease them.
Very true.
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Old 12-21-2008, 11:37 AM   #15
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I just want to add, Toots, I am sure that you did not understand when you posted the video how upsetting it might be to others. I know you would never intentionally do that as you seem like a lovely caring person. I just am very sensitive to issues of abuse.
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Old 12-21-2008, 12:04 PM   #16
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You call that tricks?
I must have been watching a different video, because I did not see anything even close to resembling panic.
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Old 12-21-2008, 08:50 PM   #17
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Yeesh.

Joe, my daughter and a couple of her friends are both members here and one of them is an avid aspiring chef, she spends a great deal of time here. Whether they spend time here or not is irrelevant as the mandate to keep the site PG and family friendly is from the owner of the site himself.

As for this thread, well I'm locking it. That way it can die a natural death and no one else needs to be upset by it.
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