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Old 04-15-2016, 11:41 AM   #1
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The Deception of the Dirty Dozen - pesticide residues on vegetables and fruits

We had a great discussion recently on this topic, but it was removed at the OP's request. This site has a lot of influence and the discussion had an important educational aspect to it, so I'm posting part of it here.

The subject was the Environmental Working Group's annual Dirty Dozen list of fruits and vegetables with the highest levels of pesticide residues. Their list was reviewed by scientists who published a paper in the Journal of Toxicology; here is the abstract of their paper:

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Probabilistic techniques were used to characterize dietary exposure of consumers to pesticides found in twelve commodities implicated as having the greatest potential for pesticide residue contamination by a United States-based environmental advocacy group. Estimates of exposures were derived for the ten most frequently detected pesticide residues on each of the twelve commodities based upon residue findings from the United States Department of Agriculture's Pesticide Data Program. All pesticide exposure estimates were well below established chronic reference doses (RfDs). Only one of the 120 exposure estimates exceeded 1% of the RfD (methamidophos on bell peppers at 2% of the RfD), and only seven exposure estimates (5.8 percent) exceeded 0.1% of the RfD. Three quarters of the pesticide/commodity combinations demonstrated exposure estimates below 0.01% of the RfD (corresponding to exposures one million times below chronic No Observable Adverse Effect Levels from animal toxicology studies), and 40.8% had exposure estimates below 0.001% of the RfD. It is concluded that (1) exposures to the most commonly detected pesticides on the twelve commodities pose negligible risks to consumers, (2) substitution of organic forms of the twelve commodities for conventional forms does not result in any appreciable reduction of consumer risks, and (3) the methodology used by the environmental advocacy group to rank commodities with respect to pesticide risks lacks scientific credibility.
While the Environmental Working Group claims to be a research organization, they are actually an anti-science lobbying group. Their "research" does not pass scientific muster.
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Here is the original link under discussion:

2016 "Dirty Dozen"
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Old 04-15-2016, 12:32 PM   #3
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Tenspeed posted:

According to the U.S. National Institute of Health, "It is concluded that (1) exposures to the most commonly detected pesticides on the twelve commodities pose negligible risks to consumers, (2) substitution of organic forms of the twelve commodities for conventional forms does not result in any appreciable reduction of consumer risks, and (3) the methodology used by the environmental advocacy group to rank commodities with respect to pesticide risks lacks scientific credibility." in reference to EWG.

Read the full article at Dietary Exposure to Pesticide Residues from Commodities Alleged to Contain the Highest Contamination Levels
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Old 04-15-2016, 12:33 PM   #4
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The Rugged Dude posted:

It`s at the point where buying any fruit or veg makes me very nervous... I still do buy some, but only when I need to. I grow what I can.


If I could grow avocados, bananas, oranges and pineapple in Canada...
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Old 04-15-2016, 12:34 PM   #5
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Got Garlic in response to EWG being a Research Group:

They are not actually a research group. They are an advocacy group. They put out a lot of press releases, but the "research" they do is minimal and unscientific. Unfortunately, even bad opinions are protected free speech in this country.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/henrymil.../#4666d78c6411
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Tenspeed on EWG:

There are no police on the internet, and nobody will stop them. EWG has a history of making unsubstantiated alarmist claims, including the radiation dangers of cell phone usage. It's not very hard to find this.
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Old 04-15-2016, 12:36 PM   #7
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Aunt Bea chimed in:

IMO the country of origin needs to be factored in, some countries use deadly pesticides very sparingly and some don't.

A little sleuthing and a little common sense is about the only protection most of us have from any of these food related issues. I wash everything, peel some, pass on others. Most importantly I try not to think about it too much!
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GotGarlic on FDA requirements:

Imported foods have to meet the same requirements regarding pesticide residue as domestically produced foods.

"The requirements of section 402 of the FFDCA apply equally to domestically produced and imported food and feed found to contain pesticide residues. Therefore, even though the use of a pesticide in a foreign country is not subject to EPA registration requirements under FIFRA, a pesticide residue in imported food or feed must be in conformity with a tolerance, tolerance exemption, or food additive regulation established by EPA or, if the pesticide residue is unavoidable, an action level established by FDA."

http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/ComplianceM.../ucm123236.htm
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Creative responded:

I have emailed them with your previous post. Let's see what transpires re. the evidence of their research shall we?

I hope you are not suggesting that cell phones operate without radiation?
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GotGarlic:

I think he's suggesting that the type of radiation emitted by cell phones does not cause cancer.

"From a biological standpoint, a strong link between cell phone use and brain cancer (or any other cancer) is not very plausible at all; in fact, it’s highly implausible. Cell phones do not emit ionizing radiation; they emit electromagnetic radiation in the microwave spectrum whose energy is far too low to cause the DNA damage that leads to mutations that lead to cancer."

Cell phones and cancer again, or: Oh, no! My cell phone’s going to give me cancer! (revisited)

Maybe you could email them again and ask why they don't differentiate between ionizing and non-ionizing radiation.
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