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I meant Cora, not Nora in my previous post.

Strange that the writers didn't check the medical facts of 1920 and left both those doctors standing there claiming there was nothing that could be done for her. They could at least have said they didn't have Magnesium sulfate with them. That could have been believable at least.

Beyond Downton Abbey: Preeclampsia Maternal Deaths Continue Today - The Daily Beast

"Even in the early 1900s, some treatment for seizures would have been utilized. Magnesium sulfate has been around since 1906 and has since been proven to be a superior medication. It is cheap, cost-effective, and relatively easy to administer."
 
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Wow is right. I just finished watching it. I had a hunch there would be a relapse. Everything was too perfect for as much as they dwelled on it earlier. And did anyone else take their hand and make a knife twisting motion when Cora made that comment to Robert before she left to write her letter? Looks like a division coming between those two over this.

And Mary is hiking her pants up further in her relationship, too.

Onto another plotline though... why now? Why now does Isobel help Ethel out now that she gave up her baby? I did not expect that. I figured Ethel was gone from the show until maybe later after her kid grows up... depending on how many seasons there will be of this. I laughed at the comment Carson made about telling Mrs Hughes to make sure the footmen did not visit either :rolleyes:

Interesting epeisode. I get the rest of the season tomorrow. I won't say anything until after they air.
 
:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

But such a lovely "kidney souffle"......:sick:

Is there such a thing? ;)

I'm still trying to come up with the plot line between Sybil's baby and that Mary & Matthew are still lacking... something will be done with that, you wait. Maybe not this season, but I'll bet somewhere down the line. I can't imagine the hubby hanging around without his wife. Not when he's such a radical. Unless he does a character flop.
 
Is there such a thing? ;)

I'm still trying to come up with the plot line between Sybil's baby and that Mary & Matthew are still lacking... something will be done with that, you wait. Maybe not this season, but I'll bet somewhere down the line. I can't imagine the hubby hanging around without his wife. Not when he's such a radical. Unless he does a character flop.

Well, it has already been stated that Matthew will not be returning after this season. Does he get killed in WWII?

The differences between the two doctors was a question of ethics. Robert's doctor should have acquiesced to the family doctor. Even if he was wrong. After all, she had been his patient throughout her whole life. And since they were expecting a home birth, they should have had the medicines and equipment with them to handle a home birth. Robert should have notified the family doctor of his decision to bring in another doctor. Bad decisions by everyone. :angel:
 
Well, it has already been stated that Matthew will not be returning after this season. Does he get killed in WWII?

The differences between the two doctors was a question of ethics. Robert's doctor should have acquiesced to the family doctor. Even if he was wrong. After all, she had been his patient throughout her whole life. And since they were expecting a home birth, they should have had the medicines and equipment with them to handle a home birth. Robert should have notified the family doctor of his decision to bring in another doctor. Bad decisions by everyone. :angel:

matthew will be too old to serve in wwii.

and the point of the plot was that status was more important than ethics.
 
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I know what the message was, but in my family, ethics are a big issue. My daughter works in Management for the DMV. No one in the family will ever ask her to push through their registration, driving tests, etc. She didn't even do it for her own kids or husband. It is just unethical.

And the same goes for my youngest son. Don't even let the thought of asking him to write a script for you enter your head. You will get a resounding "No!" from him and catch h**l from the rest of the family. He practices Emergency Medicine. He changed jobs recently and is now at the hospital that I go to all the time. He is in the ER one day a week. When I asked him what day it was, so I could try not to go on his work day, he changed his practicing to Trauma Medicine. Gunshots, stabbings, etc. He will still be in the ER, but not in the area where they would bring me. They will only call him to my side as my Medical Proxy if needed. Otherwise I am just another patient. And I NEVER use his name to get preferential treatment from my own doctors. Ethics! :angel:
 
well of course, addie. we live in a different century, and country (as far as the plot goes, that is) .
 
i think cora will get over it. she seems to truely love robert, flaws and all. actually, she protects him in a way.
and she buys into the whole scheme of things, as they were.
 
honestly, i can sympathize with robert. if i had to decide between my family doctor saying he had an uncertain treatment, and a specialist that guaranteed a good result, i'm not sure who i'd choose even today.

i can see this working into the subplot of how robert loses his being master of the abbey, and matthew taking over.
 
well of course, addie. we live in a different century, and country (as far as the plot goes, that is) .

There are somethings that send me over the edge. Abuse and neglect of children and animals, ethics, deliberate and uncalled for rudeness, thinking I am just a stupid old lady, etc. I do tend to get carried away. I need to step back and remember, "this is just a story." Darn DA. I am just too involved in this story. It has me hooked. I need to go and look at "Today's Funny." :angel:
 
Ooh , interesting on things that have been picked up that I didn't know at the time and now it all makes sense.

Ah yes! As the saying goes.... "And the plot thickens." Daisy has some evidence that will free Mr. Bates. But will she be able to put it to use? :angel:
 
My mom's oldest brother was born with a birth defect in 1922--his esophagus was not connected. He was born in a hospital, but sent home with my grandparents to die (I can't imagine how hard that was for them--this was their first born child. My grandfather was gassed in the trenches in France during WWI). Today this would be an easy fix (maybe not easy, but fixable). Deaths associated with childbirth were still quite high in the 1920s.
 
Ah yes! As the saying goes.... "And the plot thickens." Daisy has some evidence that will free Mr. Bates. But will she be able to put it to use? :angel:

Daisy? Do you mean Anna, his wife?
Anyway, I know what happens there as I've just watched the next two weeks' episodes.

I didn't know Matthew wasn't returning though. Good spoiler. That should make finishing up the season interesting knowing that.
 
I was doing a search on the DA family to try and get all the relations straight and one website had the family tree. It showed Sybil's death in childbirth so I knew that was coming and it told how Matthew "leaves the show" which I will not divulge here for those that want to find out in the normal course of viewing.
 
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