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Old 01-14-2009, 12:20 PM   #71
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the next thing will be heads up displays on the windshields.

gps, video phones, target acquisition, disney movies...
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Old 01-14-2009, 12:39 PM   #72
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DQ - To answer your question, I see no difference between talking on the phone and talking to someone in the car. Each can have it's own set of problems / distractions. It is completely dependent on the ability of the driver to remain focused on the task at hand.

GB - Do you think that such a law would be enforcable?

There just is not an easy answer here.
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Old 01-14-2009, 12:46 PM   #73
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Yep GB I'm like your wife. When I'm the passenger, often we play "punchbug" (without punching to distract the driver of course) or the license plate game.
No, it's YOU that plays the game. I just roll my eyes.
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Old 01-14-2009, 12:56 PM   #74
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GB - Do you think that such a law would be enforcable?
No, I do not think so, but I do think that there are enough people out there who believe it is so if it ever came to vote on then I could see it passing. I do not think that would be true of a similar law about talking to people who are in the car with you.
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Old 01-14-2009, 12:58 PM   #75
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OFF TOPIC JOKE, but since we're talking about communication....:

Redneck Archaeologist


After having dug to a depth of 10 feet last year, New York scientists found traces of a copper-wire system dating back 100 years, and they came to the conclusion that their ancestors already had a telephone network more than 100 years ago.

Not to be outdone by New Yorkers, in the weeks that followed, California scientists dug to a depth of 20 feet, and shortly after, headlines in the LA Times newspaper read:

'California archaeologists have found traces of 200 year old copper-wire system and have concluded that their ancestors already had an advanced high-tech communications network a hundred years earlier than the New Yorkers.'

One week later, 'The Redneck Rebel Gazette' in West Virginia reported the following:

After digging as deep as 30 feet in a corn field, Bubba Ray Johnson, a self-taught archaeologist, reported that he found absolutely nothing.

Bubba has therefore concluded that 300 years ago, West Virginia had already gone wireless.

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Well, geez, a quick Google search yields all kinds of hits for the studies that say using cell phones while driving is more hazardous than talking to a passenger.

Here's just one: Study: More Dangerous to Drive on Cell Phone than Chat with Passenger

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OK, to answer the question at hand - I do think there is a difference between talking to passengers and talking on a cellphone, hands-free included. A passenger can see that you are still there and if you don't answer, it's because your complete attention to the road is required at that particular moment. There aren't drop-outs where the other person is wondering if you are still there. There is no third distraction - namely the cellphone device.

I do think that passengers can be distracting. I think that eating or shaving or some other activities people engage in while driving are very dangerous - far more dangerous than cellphone talking. But I don't think that's a reason to not legislate cellphone usage. That reasoning seems a little goofy to me. It's like saying "even though I know this makes me a less attentive driver, it's better than some other more dangerous things I could be doing".

On a lighthearted note, maybe we should have cellphone lanes. Like the HOV lanes we have now.
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Oh, you're right about a hands-free law being difficult to enforce. But there are plenty of people who will just obey the law rather than take their chances.
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...On a lighthearted note, maybe we should have cellphone lanes. Like the HOV lanes we have now.
They don't make lanes wide enough...

Seriously though, how many times have you seen a driver drift in and out of their lane, cut people off, change lanes without signaling, almost miss their exit and cut across 3 lanes of traffic, follow another car too closely, sit a a light long after it turns green, and the list goes on and on and on and on. How many times do you look over and see the person either talking on a cell phone or talking on a hands-free device? I don't believe it can be a coincidence as many times as it happens. I live in Atlanta and more often than not that is the case. There may be some of you who are very good drivers and can handle the multi-tasking but for the most part, that is simply not the case.

Even for those of you who think it's only a minor distraction or that their are worse things you could be doing...is my life and the life of my family really worth taking that chance? Is the conversation REALLY all that important?
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Seriously though, how many times have you seen a driver drift in and out of their lane, cut people off, change lanes without signaling, almost miss their exit and cut across 3 lanes of traffic, follow another car too closely and the list goes on and on and on and on. How many times do you look over and see the person either talking on a cell phone or talking on a hands-free device? I don't believe it can be a coincidence as many times as it happens.
I do not agree that it can be a distraction. At the same time though I remember driving before cell phones and I can recall many times that the above happened. Even though we see someone driving like an idiot while on the phone it does not mean it is the phones fault. That person just may always drive like an idiot.
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