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Old 05-04-2012, 10:53 PM   #2251
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Old 05-05-2012, 03:08 AM   #2252
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Today I worked a 12 hour serving shift with no break. I was lucky I got to eat a few bites in between my tables. How can my managers think this is a good idea?? I have a pretty good game face, but man, I get so absentminded after the first 8 hours... I don't even ask for breaks anymore because if you insist on a break, they won't schedule you lunch-dinner shifts anymore, and that makes it almost impossible to get 40 hours. :/
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Old 05-05-2012, 09:23 AM   #2253
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Today I worked a 12 hour serving shift with no break. I was lucky I got to eat a few bites in between my tables. How can my managers think this is a good idea?? I have a pretty good game face, but man, I get so absentminded after the first 8 hours... I don't even ask for breaks anymore because if you insist on a break, they won't schedule you lunch-dinner shifts anymore, and that makes it almost impossible to get 40 hours. :/
What a bummer. It's sad when managers are so short-sighted.

When I worked as a supervisor at H&R Block, my receptionist wanted a lot of overtime hours. My manager phoned me to say he was nixing my schedule. I explained that she had asked for those hours and he said she couldn't have all of them because she would become inefficient.

I think you should document this abuse. I think you should ask/not insist for breaks. When you notice it, document what happens to other employees when they insist on a break. Is there a government agency that protects employees that you could contact?

Is the restaurant a franchise or company owned? I want you to think about taking this higher up, but I don't know if it is a good idea to actually rock the boat. If management keeps up this sort of stupidity, you will reach a point that you hate your job. What are your prospects of employment elsewhere in your area? Would the pay, etc. be as good?
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Old 05-05-2012, 11:02 AM   #2254
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Skittle, I agree totally with TL.

I don't know what it is like in the US, but having grown up working for my father, then being a manager and then a business owner, I have become pretty knowledgeable about labour laws here in Canada.

After 4 hours a staff member is not just entitled to a break, it is law. At 6 -7 hours you get two 15 minute breaks and at 8 hours you get 1 - 2 15 minutes and 1/2 to 1 hour for lunch/dinner. The 15 minute breaks are to be paid by the company but the larger break is usually unpaid.

I would seriously look into this, as well as documenting everything. Don't go to your managers with what you have learned about the labour laws, but ask for breaks and document their answers. Then take this as high up as you can.
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Skittle, I agree totally with TL.

I don't know what it is like in the US, but having grown up working for my father, then being a manager and then a business owner, I have become pretty knowledgeable about labour laws here in Canada.

After 4 hours a staff member is not just entitled to a break, it is law. At 6 -7 hours you get two 15 minute breaks and at 8 hours you get 1 - 2 15 minutes and 1/2 to 1 hour for lunch/dinner. The 15 minute breaks are to be paid by the company but the larger break is usually unpaid.

I would seriously look into this, as well as documenting everything. Don't go to your managers with what you have learned about the labour laws, but ask for breaks and document their answers. Then take this as high up as you can.
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Old 05-05-2012, 12:23 PM   #2257
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Skittle, I agree totally with TL.

I don't know what it is like in the US, but having grown up working for my father, then being a manager and then a business owner, I have become pretty knowledgeable about labour laws here in Canada.

After 4 hours a staff member is not just entitled to a break, it is law. At 6 -7 hours you get two 15 minute breaks and at 8 hours you get 1 - 2 15 minutes and 1/2 to 1 hour for lunch/dinner. The 15 minute breaks are to be paid by the company but the larger break is usually unpaid.

I would seriously look into this, as well as documenting everything. Don't go to your managers with what you have learned about the labour laws, but ask for breaks and document their answers. Then take this as high up as you can.
The law only says that an employee must be allowed time to go to the bathroom at least every four hours, and if you work longer then 8 hours you must be permitted sufficient time for a meal break. It is against the law to make you clock out for your meal break if you are not relieved of all your duties. During the slow time when I only had one or two tables I was allowed to stand at a counter and eat, and I snuck in the back a couple times to sit down for two minutes at a time while they were eating. Being allowed to sit down for ten minutes would have been plenty of time- just to let my legs recover a little before the dinner rush, but like I said, if you complain they won't let you work a lunch and dinner shift in the same day. I would have to work 7 days a week to get the hours I need if I don't work a couple long shifts. I already hate my job. My managers are all young and inexperienced. It is a corporation, and I could complain to employee relations, but they aren't breaking any laws, they are just being unreasonable. Not to mention stupid, because breaks keep employees at their best. I would have been looking for a different job months ago, but my bf and I have been planning to move to another city, so getting trained in at a new job just to work there for a couple months, then having to do it all over again when we move, and having all that job hopping on my resume... I decided to just stick it out. I will be done there June 16th or 17th. I'm told the managers at the Red Lobster in the new city are more experienced and better to work with.
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(((hugs))) Skittle. Hang in there. I understand about sticking it out for a limited amount of time. I don't know if it's your style, but when you get to the new city and job, you might want to say something to the effect of, "I'm so glad to get breaks. They really help my efficiency." if and when you get breaks.
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Old 05-05-2012, 02:12 PM   #2259
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(((hugs))) Skittle. Hang in there. I understand about sticking it out for a limited amount of time. I don't know if it's your style, but when you get to the new city and job, you might want to say something to the effect of, "I'm so glad to get breaks. They really help my efficiency." if and when you get breaks.
Good idea :) I hear the general manager at that store is really nice. Our managers are nice too, but they have limited manager experience and just don't seem to know the value of treating their employees right. They treat us like robots.
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Old 05-07-2012, 02:35 PM   #2260
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Skittle, I agree totally with TL.

I don't know what it is like in the US, but having grown up working for my father, then being a manager and then a business owner, I have become pretty knowledgeable about labour laws here in Canada.

After 4 hours a staff member is not just entitled to a break, it is law. At 6 -7 hours you get two 15 minute breaks and at 8 hours you get 1 - 2 15 minutes and 1/2 to 1 hour for lunch/dinner. The 15 minute breaks are to be paid by the company but the larger break is usually unpaid.

I would seriously look into this, as well as documenting everything. Don't go to your managers with what you have learned about the labour laws, but ask for breaks and document their answers. Then take this as high up as you can.
We have similar laws in the US, but most places that I've waited tables at (especially corporate places) ask you to fill out a form when you are first hired that allows you to opt out of breaks. You can choose to opt out or you can decide not to, but if you do want the formal breaks it's as much of a pain for you as it is for your employer. You have to be taken out of the rotation, wait until your current tables are finished, take your break, and then return to the floor. In a normal single shift, that is a big hassle for the restaurant and other servers and costs the server taking the break quite a few tables and consequently quite a bit of money. However, a 12-hour shift isn't a normal shift and a manager with any sense is going to give someone a break between rushes, or at the very least, an informal break of a few minutes to sit down and grab a bite to eat. Sorry about your rough day, Skittle.
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