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Old 06-06-2014, 07:43 AM   #4091
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What better time to strike than when the future of the next generation is at stake. That sure will get someone's attention. I would rather see them strike at the beginning of the year.
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Old 06-06-2014, 08:21 AM   #4092
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Wow, nobody has had to vent in awhile - that's great!

Unfortunately I have to break that streak. Our province is going through a tough time with teachers. The government and the union are not getting anywhere and there have been rotating lockouts and walkouts.

The ones who are really getting hurt in this whole thing are the high school students who want to get their grades so they can go on after graduation. So, yesterday, which was the only day of the week teachers weren't out somewhere, the students set up their own walk out via Facebook. They didn't go to school and instead picketed with signs saying "We matter too" and "where do we fit in all of this"?, etc.

Well the students are getting slammed for their actions. The press and much of the public are saying they just wanted another day off, they are making matters worse, if they are worried about the school they are missing why didn't they take advantage of the one day they could all be in class.

I agree with the students. All of the ones interviewed were very sincere and worried about their cause. Yes, I am sure there were many who just used it as an excuse not to go, but that's going to happen anyway.

Now there is talk of a full out strike next week, right when the high school students are writing finals.

Don't get me wrong, I understand the teacher's position here, but I am also on the side of the students.
I don't understand the teachers position.

I do understand people wanting to improve life for themselves and their families. I do not think simply demanding more is the correct way to go about it. What happened to improving your marketable skills and gaining experience so you have more to offer an employer and ultimately command a higher price for your time. I think it would be fairly easy to fill these positions with well educated people who would enjoy a position with decent pay and benefits.

If these teachers were in the same position as Oliver I might feel differently.

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Old 06-06-2014, 10:26 AM   #4093
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I don't think teachers should be allowed to strike. I am only brave enough to say that because no one here knows where to find me! LOL
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Old 06-06-2014, 10:33 AM   #4094
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What happened to improving your marketable skills and gaining experience so you have more to offer an employer and ultimately command a higher price for your time. I think it would be fairly easy to fill these positions with well educated people who would enjoy a position with decent pay and benefits.
I don't know the specifics of this situation, but 1) teachers are public employees so improving your education and skills doesn't have the same rewards as the private sector and 2) it takes more than being educated to walk into a classroom and teach effectively.

My dad used to be a teacher. The taxpayers wouldn't approve a tax increase to pay for teachers' raises - for five years. Is that fair? It doesn't matter if you got a master's degree during that time - no raise.
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Old 06-06-2014, 10:47 AM   #4095
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There are many school systems that will not hire without a masters degree. And also a lot of companies. So you may as well stay in school that extra year and get your masters. But then the cost of tuition becomes a factor.
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Old 06-06-2014, 10:59 AM   #4096
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Everyone should be paid fairly for their work. Considering how much responsibility we put on teachers, it's amazing they don't get paid better. That said, you also have to weigh the impact of their tactics to get the contract they want and the tactics of the opposition (city or town officials). Parents and other residents of the community get hyper over the topic because it's their money the teachers want and IT'S ALL ON TV.
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Old 06-06-2014, 11:02 AM   #4097
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There are many school systems that will not hire without a masters degree. And also a lot of companies. So you may as well stay in school that extra year and get your masters. But then the cost of tuition becomes a factor.
With the national shortage of science, technology, engineering and math teachers, I'm surprised there are very many districts that can be that selective.
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Old 06-06-2014, 11:57 AM   #4098
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With the national shortage of science, technology, engineering and math teachers, I'm surprised there are very many districts that can be that selective.
In this state, if you hold a license for any employment, you must keep up with your continuous education. And that goes for every teacher, nurse, doctor, lawyer, etc. in the state.
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Old 06-06-2014, 12:32 PM   #4099
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In this state, if you hold a license for any employment, you must keep up with your continuous education. And that goes for every teacher, nurse, doctor, lawyer, etc. in the state.
That's true in every state. Continuing education doesn't necessarily lead to a master's degree, though. It's often professional development, like the class DH and his two colleagues teach to teachers in their district.
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Overpaid Teachers
TIRED OF THOSE HIGH PAID TEACHERS!

I, for one, am sick and tired of those high paid teachers. Their hefty salaries are driving up taxes, and they only work nine or ten months a year!

It's time we put things in perspective and pay them for what they do, babysit!. We can get that for less than minimum wage. That's right... I would give the $3.00 dollars an hour and only the hours they worked, not any of that silly planning time.

That would be 15 dollars a day. Each parent should pay 15 dollars a day for these teachers to baby-sit their children. Now, how many do they teach in a day....maybe 25. Then that's 15 X 25=$375 a day. But remember they only work 180 days a year! I'm not going to pay them for any vacations.
Let's see... that's 375 x 180=$67,500.00 (Hold on, my calculator must need batteries!)

What about those special teachers or the ones with masters degrees? Well, we could pay them minimum wage just to be fair. Let's round it off to $6.00 an hour. That would be $6 times 5 hours times 25 children times 180 days= $135,000.00 per year. Wait a minute, there is something wrong here!!!

There sure is, huh????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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