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Old 07-06-2016, 05:31 PM   #4501
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Old 07-06-2016, 06:14 PM   #4502
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Old 07-31-2016, 09:50 PM   #4503
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The system is broken for sure. I choose not to encourage those who have broken it.
I hate to say it, but I really identify with Monk's helper, Sharona, when she said she never votes because "it just encourages them".


I had a Grrrrr moment today. Last Sunday coming home from Seattle, my car started to surge when I accelerated and the engine light went on. I made it home, but I made an appointment to bring it in to the mechanic. That's this Tuesday.

Last Friday I took it out to see if the car would start. It started fine and had no problems being driven. The surging problem was gone. But the engine light was still on, so I decided it should still go in to the mechanic.

Today I dropped my friend Lisa off at her car (she parks at her work parking lot, on account of there's no other place in this idiot town to park). On the way home, my engine light went off. I ask you!

I'll call the mechanic tomorrow and see if I should still bring it in.
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Old 08-01-2016, 06:23 PM   #4504
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Old 08-01-2016, 06:53 PM   #4505
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I hate to say it, but I really identify with Monk's helper, Sharona, when she said she never votes because "it just encourages them".
What that actually does is disrespect the memory and the suffering of the women who worked, and were tortured, to secure for all women the right to vote.

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Old 08-01-2016, 07:29 PM   #4506
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What that actually does is disrespect the memory and the suffering of the women who worked, and were tortured, to secure for all women the right to vote.

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Isn't that something? How have women been subdued for so many years? We're smarter, tougher, more industrious, and matriarchal societies like elephants have done a pretty good job.
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Old 08-01-2016, 10:18 PM   #4507
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Isn't that something? How have women been subdued for so many years? We're smarter, tougher, more industrious, and matriarchal societies like elephants have done a pretty good job.
In general, men are heavier and have more physical strength. Before reliable birth control, women were not in control of their fertility and so they often submitted in order to protect their children.

And of course, through most of history, most religions required women to be submissive to men. Cultural and social norms are powerful incentives to conform.
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Old 08-02-2016, 02:37 AM   #4508
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What that actually does is disrespect the memory and the suffering of the women who worked, and were tortured, to secure for all women the right to vote.

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It wasn't meant to be taken seriously.

But you could say the same thing about women who have had their tubes tied in the face of women who are desperate to have a baby. I'm under no obligation to have a baby just because someone else can't and I'm also under no obligation to vote because someone else couldn't.
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Old 08-02-2016, 05:00 AM   #4509
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It wasn't meant to be taken seriously.

But you could say the same thing about women who have had their tubes tied in the face of women who are desperate to have a baby. I'm under no obligation to have a baby just because someone else can't and I'm also under no obligation to vote because someone else couldn't.
This thread is for venting. I always assume what people say here is meant to be taken seriously.

No you aren't but yes you are.

Another woman having or not having a child has nothing to do with you. The women who worked for the vote did that *so that you, and the rest of us, could vote also.* Your obligation arises not because they couldn't but because they got the Constitution changed so that you *can*.
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Old 08-02-2016, 10:42 AM   #4510
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It was said by a wise man that you should always vote for the most qualified, and ethical candidate, whether you believe that person has a chance or not. To do otherwise defeats the ability of the people to select a responsible, and effective government.

I would also add that it is our responsibility to learn about the people we vote for, and not by simply listening to their rhetoric. Until we, as a people, take our voting rights seriously, we will have the same ineffective governments that are controlled not by conscience, or a desire to do what is right for our countries, they will continue to be controlled by special interests, and big money. That's MHO.

It is said that we get the government we deserve. Looking at our society, I'd say that is a correct statement. So my pet peve in this is that we are not a responsible people who believe that we can make a change for the better by voting for men and women of strong moral character, who are not swayed by greed and power. Those people exist, but are never taken seriously in our social eye, at least not when politics is involved.

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