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Old 06-15-2011, 06:47 AM   #831
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My cousin has a child also who will eat and eat and eat and eat and eat and eat and still say he is hungry, is morbidly obese because of his eating, and also has ADHD, as well as other issues, including obsessive-compulsive disorder, although he is able to function normally when he wants something. He was a preemie that at the time he was born was on the border of where the docs are able to keep them alive. His issues have gotten worse and worse as he has gotten older, to the point that as a young teen my cousin was unable to handle him, violence was even threatened. He needs an extremely structured environment and has had to be placed in a facility dealing with teens with eating disorders, behavioral problems, etc. He came home for a few years, did really well at first, but has recently been placed back in such a facility. Frankly, I don't know what she is going to do because he will be 18 soon.

I write this not to frighten you but to reinforce the advice given to you regarding talking to your doctor. My cousin and my aunt, mostly my aunt, his grandmother, kept saying for years it's just a phase, he'll grow out of it, he's just being a boy, etc. Well, he didn't grow out of it and it's only gotten worse. Please take them to see their doctor.

With the above said though, my grand-daughters are 4 and 8. For the last few years, the 8-year-old has been going thru periods where she can eat third helpings and be hungry again shortly after. This will go on for several weeks and then taper off for a few months, then start again. She's tall for her age and has a good body weight for her height. One of those cycles is just ending. When I was there about a month ago, she was eating everything she could get her hands on (and getting up in the middle of the night and eating - driving her mother nuts), yet when I went this past weekend, she is nearly back to eating normal amounts. It's obviously a growth phase she is going thru so please consider that as well.

A month ago when I was there, I talked to her about eating in the middle of the night because it was driving her mother and father nuts since she was taking food in her bedroom and leaving wrappers, crumbs, etc that were drawing bugs (South Florida too just several hours away from us). She was defensive at first because her mother and father had been fussing at her so much and punishing her over it. Once I got her to realize I wasn't going to fuss at her, she told me she couldn't help it, that she'd wake up so hungry she couldn't go back to sleep and she just had to have something to eat. The younger one would usually wake up and tag along on the kitchen raids too.

So, please take the kids to the doctor and find out if there is a problem before fussing at them or punishing them.
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Old 06-15-2011, 07:01 AM   #832
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Problem is my youngest boy is the one that concerns me with the food for he always wants food no matter how much food he gets he wants more & more I've talked to the doctor bout that wad b4 they started to do this in middle of night. All she said was it might be he eating too fast or needs more fatty foods
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Old 06-15-2011, 07:06 AM   #833
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So you telling me I shouldn't say anything let em do it
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Old 06-15-2011, 07:16 AM   #834
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That young, yes I would, although I'd provide a special shelf or one of the bottom drawers they can take from like was suggested earlier. Is the youngest eating a balanced diet or is he like some kids that age that will only eat certain things?
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Old 06-15-2011, 07:22 AM   #835
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I have to do the balanced diet my oldest is on special diet he is ADHD. And I don't knw wht to do for my husband thinks they need to sit in room til they stop. And it gonna be a fight.
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Old 06-15-2011, 07:23 AM   #836
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And it always the foods they not allowed to have like chocolate tht they get into
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Old 06-15-2011, 07:30 AM   #837
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Right now I feel like a failure as a mom. And I am married, but they my kids so he feels it not his place to do anything. 2 of my kids have been getting up middle of night or b4 I do at least getting into food. It'd been every other day. Im getting into a depression state cause I've displined them in every way (extra chores, no TV, no playing outside) they still do it. I don't know what else to do.
Stubbs, is the food they are getting into junk food or real, nutritious food? If it is the former, then just do not buy it for awhile. If it is the latter, then make a nutritious snack for them a half hour or so before bed. But the fact is that kids can be insomniacs (I was one) and stay in bed and read a book.
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Old 06-15-2011, 07:33 AM   #838
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Oh, dear, some other answers appeared just before mine. Seriously, can't you and your husband do without chocolate for a few weeks to help break the pattern?
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Old 06-15-2011, 07:40 AM   #839
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A child that young is responding to what his body is telling him. He's not doing it to be a thorn in your side or to cause trouble. You and your husband need to understand that. He's obviously either not getting enough to eat or not enough of the right kind of food (i.e. fatty as your doc suggested).

I know it's hard when you have to deal with it on a day-to-day basis as my daughter and her husband have shown but when you're a grandparent and can take a step back and look at the issue from a different point and, more importantly, talk to the child without them being defensive from being fussed at and/or punished you sometimes find out more. After I talked to my granddaughter and then with my daughter, they worked out a compromise that when she's hungry at night, she's allowed certain foods and is to sit at the kitchen table long enough to eat and then go straight back to bed. If she gets caught playing or having food in her room, she understands she will be punished. And if she wakes her sister up, she's responsible for getting her back to bed too unless she absolutely won't cooperate and then she's to go wake up mom.

Even at 3 and 4, yours should be old enough to be told you can have food from this box or this drawer but nothing else. Short of locking up the fridge and pantry, there's not much else you can do. If you continue to punish them over food that one or both of them obviously needs, that will spill over and cause other issues.

ETA: If they are eating "forbidden" things like chocolate, either don't buy it like Claire wrote or put it up where they can't reach it, or keep it in a plastic bag or box in your bedroom.
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Old 06-15-2011, 04:26 PM   #840
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Stubbs--I work weird hours (4 a.m. to about 1:30 p.m.). I eat protein for breakfast (a couple of hard boiled eggs fill me up). Maybe mixing up the evening snacks to include protein--deviled eggs, hardboiled eggs, egg on toast, as the bedtime snack would be helpful? Quinoa is another food that fills me up. It is gluten free but an excellent source of vegetable protein and amino acids. I don't have a problem switching my sleep hours, but my "belly" has had a real problem adjusting to the change in the time of day that I'm actually up and working.

Can your doctor refer you to a dietician/nutritionist? Maybe a dietician/nutritionist can help you determine what foods might help fill your son up? I assume there is no other medical condition that makes him hungry all the time?
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