What are you doing?

[Snip 13]

Sorry if my language was imprecise. I'm still curious to know what you think his deficiency might be.

Since I have complex medical problems and worked at a medical school, unsubstantiated medical claims are one of my pet peeves I really would like to see evidence that this is true because research I've done says otherwise.

To me, this is just like discussing different ideas about cooking. Some are true and some are not and sometimes people believe untrue ideas because that's they were taught.

Craving cheese commonly indicates a deficiency in fatty acids or calcium.
If you wish to see evidence you are going to have go a long way to find it.
This topic could be debated forever. Even medical professional have different opinions on the topic and every other topic like it. Next year they may find new evidence or in 5 years.....

Some people crave things that may not indicate any health problems but just their obsession with food. Some crave specific foods, some crave things like ice when they're iron deficient etc etc.

I know my own body and many other people know theirs too. If I know that I often crave foods my body needs, why would I ignore it?

If you really want me to Google it I'm sure I will find something but I don't believe all the nonsense you find on there. You can find "proof" for everything. Even things that are not true.

 

[Snip 13]

Actually, I just had a craving for toasted cheese sandwiches
I tend to not have (make/eat) things for a while, so when I do make something I hit it hard. I was still eating bread and cheese and other vegetables when I wasn't making toasted cheese sandwiches.
I'm pretty sure if I'm deficient in anything though it's chicken wings. I haven't made myself some chicken wings in probably 2-3 weeks

I don't agree, I think you have a bone marrow deficiency
It's about time you make us some food porn again! Love your marrow recipe

 

[vitauta]

i have a serious gravy deficiency that i need to address....

 

[taxlady]

...
Have you looked at youtube at some of the contraptions people have made ... you will LOL

Now there is a feeder that spins when a squirrel gets on it as well as one where it closes .. both work based on the weight of the animal.

Good luck .. I know it's a challenge !

I first saw those spinners on TV years ago. They had wonderful clips of squirrels getting on them just for the ride.

 

[pacanis]

Sounds like this deficiency thing is just like people trying to understand why some dogs eat their own shinola. The debate is endless with nothing really proven.
I think some dogs simply like the taste.

 

[Snip 13]

Do you have a source for evidence of that? I really am curious because I have serious chronic vitamin and mineral deficiencies because of a medical problem that makes it difficult for my body to absorb nutrients from food.

Perhaps you should consider seeing a homeopath or herbalist?
If you don't have anything against alternative options that is.
It can't be fun having to work harder than others to get the nutrients you need.
Hope you find a solution!

 

[vitauta]

the shinola deficiency in dogs is a much exaggerated and largely anecdotal condition

 

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the shinola deficiency in dogs is a much exaggerated and largely anecdotal condition

This is positively the most painful and pointless discussion on DC yet

 

[GotGarlic]

Craving cheese commonly indicates a deficiency in fatty acids or calcium.

I just don't see that in Pac (luv ya, dude!)

If you wish to see evidence you are going to have go a long way to find it.

What does this mean?

This topic could be debated forever. Even medical professional have different opinions on the topic and every other topic like it. Next year they may find new evidence or in 5 years.....

While that may be true, it doesn't make sense to make decisions based on what might happen in the future. Studies have been done on this and have not shown a connection. My doctors are all associated with a medical school, so are familiar with the latest research. None of them have told me to watch for certain symptoms, with the exception of symptoms associated with acute anemia.

If you really want me to Google it I'm sure I will find something but I don't believe all the nonsense you find on there. You can find "proof" for everything. Even things that are not true.

Well, I have googled it, specifically restricting the search to educational institutions, and all I found is studies disproving the idea. A tip: You can restrict searches by putting this in the search bar: site:*.edu for educational institutions, site:*.gov for governmental sites, etc. I don't get medical information from sites that are out to sell something.

Perhaps you should consider seeing a homeopath or herbalist?
If you don't have anything against alternative options that is.
It can't be fun having to work harder than others to get the nutrients you need.
Hope you find a solution!

I don't have a problem with alternative options; I'm seeing an acupuncturist, who is also an MD specializing in cardiology, to try to treat my chronic headaches. I do object to unproven alternatives and I don't consider anecdotal evidence to be reliable.

Thanks for the good wishes

 

[vitauta]

i beg to differ. there have been many, many other discussions every bit as pointless as this one on dc, maybe even more so. wait, what--shinola deficiency is painful?

 

[Snip 13]

I just don't see that in Pac (luv ya, dude!)

I don't check his daily menu. I have better things to do than watch other people's eating habits for them. It was just a comment. Meant light heartedly at that.

What does this mean?

You can find true answers and false ones online that claim to be true.



Studies have been done on this and have not shown a connection. My doctors are all associated with a medical school, so are familiar with the latest research. None of them have told me to watch for certain symptoms, with the exception of symptoms associated with acute anemia.

My Homeopath feels otherwise, would you like his number? I know what works for me and some people feel the same. I don't need proof.




Well, I have googled it, specifically restricting the search to educational institutions, and all I found is studies disproving the idea. A tip: You can restrict searches by putting this in the search bar: site:*.edu for educational institutions, site:*.gov for governmental sites, etc. I don't get medical information from sites that are out to sell something.

I get bored often but never that bored. You're making a mountain out of a mole hill.



I don't have a problem with alternative options; I'm seeing an acupuncturist, who is also an MD specializing in cardiology, to try to treat my chronic headaches. I do object to unproven alternatives and I don't consider anecdotal evidence to be reliable.

Thanks for the good wishes

I really meant it. Hope you find an answer

 

[GotGarlic]

Don't worry, friends, I'm done This is just one of those topics that pushes my buttons because it's so personal to me.

I'm eating leftover stuffed shells for breakfast, then I will work on my take-home final exam for my master gardener class, and then I will go to lunch at a cafe in a farmer's market (featured on Diners, Drive-ins and Dives once!) to attend, interestingly enough, a talk on food politics by a farmer/activist

 

[Snip 13]

i beg to differ. there have been many, many other discussions every bit as pointless as this one on dc, maybe even more so. wait, what--shinola deficiency is painful? I don't know, never been hungry enough to eat my own poop!

I'll ask you which ones when I'm in the mood to slit my wrists

 

[taxlady]

We can learn to listen to our bodies and they will tell us what they need. You can learn to tell the difference between a craving for junk and "good cravings".

How?

How else do you think our bodies would tell us what to eat? Cravings and taste are nature's way of telling an animal what to eat. You just don't find wild animals who are undernourished, have deficiencies, or are overweight, if they live where adequate, appropriate food is available.

I heard about this study years ago and tried to find a reliable source on the internet, but this was all I could find.

"She cites studies that claim that young children, given free rein to eat a large variety of foods--both those considered healthy and downright dreck--will, over a period of seven to 10 days, choose a balanced diet. Sure, one day may be nothing but Cheetos and pop, but over that long week, their choices will balance." from MetroActive Dining | Intuitive Eating

I know, it might be an urban legend, but, if you read the article, The dietician pretty much explains how I feel about food.

One learns to listen to ones body by eating slowly and by paying attention. Lots of people have stopped paying attention. It's well known that we have feedback about when to stop eating, but how many people ignore those signals and keep eating? Isn't that how we end up eating enough to be "stuffed"? Well, I think there is feedback on what nutrients we need. Most of us just ignore the subtle signals from our body that we should be eating something specific to get some nutrients that we need. It becomes habit to ignore the signals.

I have eaten pork chops and steak, in winter, where the fat around the edge tasted really good for the first few bites and then started to taste gross. I believe that my body first told me that I needed fat, and then told me I had eaten enough fat.

No, it might not work for everyone. We are almost all born with imperfections in our bodies. But it's worth the slight effort to eat slowly and pay attention to try to learn to listen to our bodies so it can tell us what to eat and what not to eat.

 

[pacanis]

I may never make toasted cheese sammies again...










NOT!

 

[taxlady]

Don't worry, friends, I'm done This is just one of those topics that pushes my buttons because it's so personal to me.

I'm eating leftover stuffed shells for breakfast, then I will work on my take-home final exam for my master gardener class, and then I will go to lunch at a cafe in a farmer's market (featured on Diners, Drive-ins and Dives once!) to attend, interestingly enough, a talk on food politics by a farmer/activist

It pushes my buttons too. If there is interest, we could start another thread.

 

[Snip 13]

It pushes my buttons too. If there is interest, we could start another thread.

Count me out, this is giving me a headache!

 

[Snip 13]

I may never make toasted cheese sammies again...












NOT!

I don't even want toasted cheese anymore!

 

[Snip 13]

Trying to stay awake! Was up half the night watching The Grimm. It's like a car crash, you just can't help looking lol!

 

[pacanis]

It pushes my buttons too. If there is interest, we could start another thread.

We could call it The Effect of Gamma Rays on Man In the Moon Marigolds... or just Predicting ones own diet deficiencies... something like that