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Old 12-04-2016, 12:29 PM   #31
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First, let me stipulate that you are all smarter than me so no need to prove it.

I don't disagree with Princess Fiona's post. But I think that blade cuts both ways and way more people are robbed by "Philadelphia Lawyers" than muggers.

It's a little bit wrong for people make money by copying the work of professional food workers into their happy homemaker blog. But it's way worse for some guy who can't cook a lick to hire a shyster to sue 10,000 stay at home moms for infringing on his "copyrighted" macaroni and cheese recipe.
First of all, this isn't about "Philadelphia Lawyers". It's about protecting intellectual property.

Second, it's not a "little bit wrong". It's illegal, period.

Stay at home moms can download every recipe on the internet and make them all at home without consequence. It's only an issue when they publish that recipe as their own creation. Then it's a criminal offense.
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Old 12-04-2016, 12:36 PM   #32
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First, let me stipulate that you are all smarter than me so no need to prove it.

I don't disagree with Princess Fiona's post. But I think that blade cuts both ways and way more people are robbed by "Philadelphia Lawyers" than muggers.

It's a little bit wrong for people make money by copying the work of professional food workers into their happy homemaker blog. But it's way worse for some guy who can't cook a lick to hire a shyster to sue 10,000 stay at home moms for infringing on his "copyrighted" macaroni and cheese recipe.
Has that happened? When? Where?

Btw, I'm not claiming to be "smarter" than anyone else, but I do have education and experience with this topic. I managed a large website for a medical school for 14 years and in around 2000, I attended a seminar by an intellectual property attorney on copyright as it pertained to the Internet. I also took a class on Media Law when I got a certificate in Professional Writing. Not trying to "prove" anything; just giving some background.
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Old 12-04-2016, 12:36 PM   #33
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You could argue a civil offense. Not criminal though. But I've made my point now I'm done with it.
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Old 12-04-2016, 01:22 PM   #34
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First, let me stipulate that you are all smarter than me so no need to prove it.

I don't disagree with Princess Fiona's post. But I think that blade cuts both ways and way more people are robbed by "Philadelphia Lawyers" than muggers.

It's a little bit wrong for people make money by copying the work of professional food workers into their happy homemaker blog. But it's way worse for some guy who can't cook a lick to hire a shyster to sue 10,000 stay at home moms for infringing on his "copyrighted" macaroni and cheese recipe.
I'm sorry but your response suggests a pretty serious misunderstanding of how copyrights are enforced in addition to a misunderstanding of the very basis about how copyrights are established and why.

Plus your remarks about "Philadelphia lawyers" and "shysters" are unnecessary
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Old 12-04-2016, 01:36 PM   #35
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You could argue a civil offense. Not criminal though. But I've made my point now I'm done with it.
So you're talking about a theoretical situation of 10,000 stay-at-home moms being sued for copyright infringement by a professional chef? Gotcha.
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Old 12-04-2016, 01:55 PM   #36
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I wasn't filing a legal brief. But bloggers are being routinely sued for copyright infringement. And some of those suits are being filed by:
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a person, especially a lawyer, who uses unscrupulous, fraudulent, or deceptive methods in business
Please substitute the language above for that which you deem unnecessary.

My opinions regarding the practice and intent of copyright law were largely formed by considering the flawed applications in the music industry starting in the 1920s.

But I'm not a legal scholar, I'm a simple bachelor cook. If I am not entitled to express opinions on this topic a list of subjects upon which I may not speak would be helpful.
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Old 12-04-2016, 02:09 PM   #37
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There are interesting articles on the Web on the subject of Copyright and Plagiarism. I've been reading up on it. They clarify a lot of issues.


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Old 12-04-2016, 02:25 PM   #38
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...But I'm not a legal scholar, I'm a simple bachelor cook. If I am not entitled to express opinions on this topic a list of subjects upon which I may not speak would be helpful.
You are entitled to express opinions. This is, after all, a place to DISCUSS. No one here is an expert on every topic. Several are experts on copyright law. It's not insulting to try to correct misconceptions or discuss opinions that differ.
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Old 12-04-2016, 02:33 PM   #39
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I wasn't filing a legal brief. But bloggers are being routinely sued for copyright infringement. And some of those suits are being filed by:

Please substitute the language above for that which you deem unnecessary.

My opinions regarding the practice and intent of copyright law were largely formed by considering the flawed applications in the music industry starting in the 1920s.

But I'm not a legal scholar, I'm a simple bachelor cook. If I am not entitled to express opinions on this topic a list of subjects upon which I may not speak would be helpful.
Now you're just being ridiculous I simply asked you to back up a statement of fact. If you can't do that, maybe you should revise your statement.
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Old 12-04-2016, 02:44 PM   #40
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I wasn't filing a legal brief. But bloggers are being routinely sued for copyright infringement. And some of those suits are being filed by:

Please substitute the language above for that which you deem unnecessary.

My opinions regarding the practice and intent of copyright law were largely formed by considering the flawed applications in the music industry starting in the 1920s.

But I'm not a legal scholar, I'm a simple bachelor cook. If I am not entitled to express opinions on this topic a list of subjects upon which I may not speak would be helpful.
You are painting all Lawyers with a big black brush. I know many Lawyers who are law-abiding citizens and do not use any of the methods you described when arguing/debating/speaking in court.

The music industry is another field where I will speak up on Copyright. We can't fix the past now, but we can as a society, refuse to tolerate those who do abuse Copyright.

BTW, in case you have forgotten, I am a nurse and home cook. I am just as ignorant on some subjects as others are. Copyright Infringement is a special study of mine, trying to keep a particular authors work free of infringement, wish I had the time to include other authors. I can't help being strident about Copyright, it is after all, the Law. Just like running STOP signs and going over the speed limit, If you are caught you are ticketed.
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