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Old 07-11-2005, 01:33 PM   #11
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I say it's a vegetable, though in thinking about it, I think the nominclature could use more thorough definition.
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Old 07-11-2005, 01:58 PM   #12
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I say it's a vegetable, though in thinking about it, I think the nominclature could use more thorough definition.
Good choice, now I'm going to go fix a nice pot of Rock Stew and a tall Lumberjack Float for dessert
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Old 07-11-2005, 04:55 PM   #13
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Therein lies the debate. A fungus is not a plant, it does not come from the plant kingdom; it comes from the fungus kingdom. But I don't agree with the argument that "it's not a vegetable it's a fungus" because that's like saying "a bean isn't a vegetable it's a legume". They're two different classifications.

What it comes down to is, does a vegetable have to be a plant (I'd say it doesn't), and if it does, then what is a mushroom if not a vegetable?
Um.... when I was in school there were only 2 kingdoms (kingdom, phylum, class, order, genus, species, IIRC), plant and animal. Since it would be a stretch to call a mushroom an animal , it has to be a plant... and I think that any biologist would agree.

As to whether it's a vegetable, I'm not quite so certain of that. IMO, vegetable is purely a culinary term anyway. Most (not all... see carrot... ) of what we call vegetables are actually fruits to a biologist. And a mushroom definitely isn't a fruit.

I call it an ingredient (if it is mixed into a dish), or a side dish if it stands alone. All I know is that I eat a lot of them...
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Old 07-11-2005, 05:21 PM   #14
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Um.... when I was in school there were only 2 kingdoms (kingdom, phylum, class, order, genus, species, IIRC), plant and animal....

RP:

How old are you, man!?!? Things have changed since you were in school:

Kingdom, Phylum, Class, Order, Family, Genus, Species

To date there are five kingdoms: Animalia, which is made up of animals; Plantae, which is made up of plants; Protista, which is made up of protists (single-celled creatures invisible to the human eye); Fungi, which is made up of mushrooms, mold, yeast, lichen, etc; and Monera, which is made up of the three types of bacteria.

I feel your pain . When I was in school, three wasn't a computer or digital calculator in sight! I carried a slide rule in college.
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Old 07-11-2005, 05:41 PM   #15
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Now, be nice to the kids Andy - they probably wouldn't know a "slip-stick" if one hit them on the head. Much less what to do with one! Long live Micronta - long live K&E!!!

Mushrooms are a fungi .... neither plant nor animal as you said - they are sometimes used as a vegetable, sometimes as a meat (grilled portobello caps on a bun, for one example) for their "meaty" texture. This is getting kind of pedantic - like is chicken really meat if it's not beef?
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Old 07-11-2005, 05:54 PM   #16
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I don't know what the technical answer is, but for me the practical answer is that it is a vegetable. When my daughter is older and decides to push the mushrooms aside I will not say "eat your fungus'. I will of course tell her to eat her veggies. Just as a tomato is not technically a veggie we still all refer to it as one.
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Don't feel bad, RPcookin, I learned the same thing you did. I guess we are fossils...LOL!

Thing is, vegetable is a grocery term, not a botanical one. So, as far as I'm concerned, shrooms are a vegie.
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Old 07-11-2005, 11:34 PM   #18
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Does it really matter?? If you like them, then eat them. You could call it Ice Cream and I'd say "no thanks.."
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...they probably wouldn't know a "slip-stick" if one hit them on the head. Much less what to do with one! Long live Micronta - long live K&E!!! ...

Michael:

I still have my K&E in the leather case. I used to be pretty good with it at one time but now, Excel and the electronic calculator have made it obsolete!
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Old 07-19-2005, 05:40 PM   #20
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I'd go with: the fruiting body of a fugus
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