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Old 10-09-2006, 01:37 PM   #11
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we tend to have more Apple Crumble here than pies as such.
plenty brown sugar and cinnamon for both the apple and the crumble part.

although I have been known to cheat and crush up wholemeal digestive biscuits for the crumble mix <hangs head in shame>
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Old 10-09-2006, 02:58 PM   #12
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Even the mead is typical of northern Europe. Lindisfarne is famous for it!
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Old 10-09-2006, 08:08 PM   #13
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As American as apple pie" is a common saying in the United States. However, the expression (its full form being "As American as motherhood and apple pieis clearly metaphorical, rather than literally ascribing an American origin to either apple pie or motherhood, since both motherhood and apple pie predate the United States. To some, the saying expresses the feeling that the concept "America" is not just geographical, but is instead—along with motherhood and apple pie—something wholesome.The dish was also commemorated in the phrase "for mom and apple pie" - supposedly the stock answer of soldiers in WWII, whenever journalists asked why they were going to war.

ANYWAY in the uk

sugar isnt always in apple pies. asit was expensive in england so most recipes dont have sugar in them.

Also they use saffron to colour the filling.. Different areas use Raisins or figs and even pears in the their pie Also cloves..
Jen - that may be a "modern" thing ( I speak for 25 years ago, when I left England), but I never had an apple pie without sugar down South ( read: Oxford to the South Coast). Cooking apples were always used to make Apple Pie. Since cooking apples are very acid, sugar was obligatory.
Neither have I heard of using saffron, figs or pears.

Cloves? Ah, now you're talking!

My mum's (Kentish) apple pie had shortcrust pastry ( made with half butter, half vegetable shortening) on top and on the bottom. Stewed apples with sugar, a clove or two, that's it. Served with nothing else than Apple Pie. Generally speaking, the pie would last for about 3 minutes...
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Old 10-10-2006, 03:24 AM   #14
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My apple pies also have sugar - nowadays I use brown sugar, and I don't use a lot, just enough to get a syrup for the apples. Cloves or cinnamon, sometimes as Jen said, sultanas.
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Old 10-11-2006, 03:29 PM   #15
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Howdy Ho... thought I would Post my Apple Pie research.. funny enoughI did a culinary project on apple pie and learned about where it came from etc...

Check this article out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_pie

and read this!!
English apple pie recipes go back to the time of Chaucer. The 1381 recipe lists the ingredients as good apples, good spices, figs, raisins and pears. The cofyn of the recipe is a casing of pastry. Saffron is used for colouring the pie filling.
Cloves are a popular addition, tempering the sweetness in much the same way as cinnamon.
In England, apple pie is a dessert of enduring popularity, eaten hot or cold, on its own or with ice cream, double cream, or custard.
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Old 10-11-2006, 04:10 PM   #16
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Ok-----holidays are around the corner----where are the recipes??? My pen and pad are waiting------maybe a few knock-offs from the old colonies wouldn't be so bad would it??? :):):)
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Old 10-11-2006, 06:58 PM   #17
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Howdy Ho... thought I would Post my Apple Pie research.. funny enoughI did a culinary project on apple pie and learned about where it came from etc...

Check this article out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_pie

and read this!!
English apple pie recipes go back to the time of Chaucer. The 1381 recipe lists the ingredients as good apples, good spices, figs, raisins and pears. The cofyn of the recipe is a casing of pastry. Saffron is used for colouring the pie filling.
Cloves are a popular addition, tempering the sweetness in much the same way as cinnamon.
In England, apple pie is a dessert of enduring popularity, eaten hot or cold, on its own or with ice cream, double cream, or custard.
Raisins from France ( re. French Royal Family in England!)

Figs from the Med or from middle East. Too bloody cold to grow decent figs over there in Albion.

Spices from everywhere, especially the "Arab Trade Route" ( Middle East and India - hence the saffron, cinnamon, ginger, cloves, etc. Spices were frequently used to mask the disgusting smells of rotten fruit, meat, fish, and veg...

Apple pie with Custard....

NOW you're talking, Jen...
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TV news here in UK is about the decline of the British apple orchard in the '90s and apple growers struggle to introduce new varieties and get supermarkets to stock home grown produce. I thought it was funny this came up while we were discussing brithish apple pie!

Because my family home is in the South west of England where many of our apple orchards are I am lucky enough to see orchards a lot. But There are fewer orchards now in Somerset than there were ten years ago, or so it seems to me. I also lived among apple orchards in south Herefordshire while I was a student...but I think they are more determined to hand on to them there. Good for them!

I like apple pis and apple puddings, but can you imagine being from a farming family in Southwest of England and not liking cider, LOL. I can't stand the stuff as a drink...I sometimes cook with it though. Perry on the other hand.....

Anyway. I am going to make apple pie this weekend. All this talking about it is too tempting!
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Because my family home is in the South west of England where many of our apple orchards are I am lucky enough to see orchards a lot. But There are fewer orchards now in Somerset than there were ten years ago, or so it seems to me. I also lived among apple orchards in south Herefordshire while I was a student...but I think they are more determined to hand on to them there. Good for them!
I live in Spain and am trying to buy a place with some land so I can have a small orchard of assorted fruit trees, among them apples. I tell you, this country is blighted in terms of the variety of fruit in comparison with UK. You want apple trees here. Well gosh, you can have golden delicious, red starking and Granny Smith. "Y punto" as they say here. Full stop.

Have a look at these links in the UK:

http://www.brogdale.org/

http://www.keepers-nursery.co.uk/

I am apple green with envy.
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Because my family home is in the South west of England where many of our apple orchards are I am lucky enough to see orchards a lot. But There are fewer orchards now in Somerset than there were ten years ago, or so it seems to me. I also lived among apple orchards in south Herefordshire while I was a student...but I think they are more determined to hand on to them there. Good for them!
I live in Spain and am trying to buy a place with some land so I can have a small orchard of assorted fruit trees, among them apples. I tell you, this country is blighted in terms of the variety of fruit in comparison with the UK. You want apple trees here. Well gosh, you can have golden delicious, red starking and Granny Smith. "Y punto" as they say here. Full stop.

Have a look at these links in the UK:

http://www.brogdale.org/

http://www.keepers-nursery.co.uk/

I am apple green with envy.
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