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Old 05-21-2006, 02:56 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by Arcana
Thanks for all the tips everyone:)
Swann, you probably have a very valid point about the flour. Making bread is a big deal here so maybe I should get some cake flour but, if I do, do I need to lower the amount of baking powder? And if so, how much?

If you use cake flour in place of some or all of the usual flour,you will have to reduce the amount of liquid. Cake (low protein) flour absorbs less liquid than a higher protein flour.

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Old 05-21-2006, 09:35 PM   #12
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I'm with Andy. Some other useful and essential tips for your cake baking.
1. You must sift the flour to incorporate more air into the batter.
2. If anything, increase the amount of baking powder by any where from 1/2 to 1 tsp.
3. Using butter is fine, as long as it is melted before adding to the batter. But oil will work just as well, albeit with less flavor.
4. Try seperating the egg, mixing the yolk into the batter, then beating the white to a froth and foling it in, again to add more air into the batter.
5. An extra tbs. of oil or melted butter will give the cake more moisture and a better mouth fee;.
6. Use a double acting baking powder.
7. If adding any acidic ingredients to your cake batter, i.e. citrus, pineapple, etc., ballance the batter by adding 1/2 tsp. baking soda.

These tips will help your cake rise properly, relusting in a moist and tasty cake.

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Old 05-21-2006, 10:53 PM   #13
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i'm going to take minor exception to a point each from andy and goodweed.

- since it's a cake recipe, the original recipe is probably intended to be made with either all-purpose or cake flour, so there shouldn't be any need to adjust the ratio. if you've been using bread flour, that would certainly make the cake heavy and quite chewy, especially if you're beating it a lot. but, i'd try the original recipe with a.p. or cake flour first, before further adjusting the flour/liquid ratio.

- if you're chiefly interested in reducing the heavyness, increasing the fat content is not the usual road. adding another tablespoon or two of butter will almost certainly make it taste better, but it will also increase the heavyness.

- you didn't include the directions for the recipe, and how you proceed will make big differences in your final results. this looks like a typical two-bowl recipe, so here's the usual procedure:
1- cream the butter (not melted) and the sugar well
2- beat in the eggs at this point i'd follow goodweeds suggestion to use the yolks only, reserving the whites for later. add the vanilla.
3- thoroughly sift the dry ingredients. 3 times is best. the baking powder amount sounds small, so again goodweeds suggestion up increase the amount sounds about right. since you'll be beating the egg whites later, the first time around i'd stick with another 1/2 teaspoon, and if it's still too heavy use a whole teaspoon the next time.
4- alternate sifting in the dry ingredients with adding the milk.
5- whip up the whites and fold them in last. if you do this before, you'll end up beating a lot of the bubbles out.

one last observation is that if your oval pan is the same 9" x 13" size as the rectangular pan called for, the actual area will be a lot less, so the depth of the batter may be significantly higher. this will affect the baking time and heavyness as well. you may want to reduce the temperature by just a little, but increase the time a bit too.

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