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Old 09-14-2004, 10:58 PM   #1
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Black forest ham

i've asked this question in another message board twice and got no responses. maybe i'll get a bite here...
what distinguishes a black forest ham to make it a black forest ham?

bonus question...
did adam or eve have navels.

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Old 09-15-2004, 04:03 AM   #2
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Found this -

"Black Forest ham
This ham is made to a traditional recipe reflecting local German farming and butchery techniques. Like other dry cured meats, the pork is not cooked but dry cured with sea salt and seasoning. Subtle hints are introduced by rubbing the surface of the ham with elderberry, juniper, garlic and coriander.

Waitrose Black Forest ham is then smoked over beechwood chippings to give a balanced flavour and matured for almost a year. The firm slices are pinky red with a smoky brown edge.
Uses: Black Forest ham makes an ideal addition to any pasta dish. Try adding chopped slices to homemade macaroni cheese or stir into pasta with a ready-made pasta sauce. Alternatively, use the ham to wrap around chicken breast fillets prior to pan frying or oven roasting. This not only adds flavour but keeps the chicken moist.
To store: Keep in the fridge and consume by the use by date. Once opened eat within 2 days."

Answer to bonus question - Depends on your theory of evolution!
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Old 09-15-2004, 09:48 AM   #3
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thanx, marmalady.

i elaborate on the bonus question at great risk of crossing the dreaded R&P line [religion & politics]. my theory of evolution starts at Genesis 1:1 bolstered by the notion that evolution is a tool of God and is currently on-going. i also believe He drew a line in the sand and created man separately from animals and thus fashioned adam [and then eve] from His own image [which, in my mind, is whatever He wants it to be]. i don't believe adam or eve were as refined physically as we are...evolution took care of that. having said that, i believe that future generations will be more physically and mentally advanced than us until God calls it a day for us.

now, let's all get back to food...
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Old 09-16-2004, 05:52 PM   #4
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A better question is: Was Adam a man before Eve, or did she come with an attachment?

This really isn't a place to testify, y'know. Maybe in General Discussion, but it's really not kosher in this context.

Anyhow, marmalady, is sounds like whoever is calling what you described "Black Forest ham" has got a smoke-cooked ham native to the Schwartzwald confused with the equally German Westfalia ham (which is like a German prosciutto), which is indeed dry-cured over beechwood.

Black Forest ham is a cooked ham, not a cured ham. It's smoked over pine and fir, and the outside is coating with beef blood and seasonings to give it it's signature dark exterior.
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8) - Don't shoot the messenger, LMJ :D ! I just cut and pasted from a googley search!
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8) - Don't shoot the messenger, LMJ :D ! I just cut and pasted from a googley search!
Sorry, didn't think I was doing that. Didn't mean to if I did. :)
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thanx, guys...
i just back in town from the hunting lodge. we had hunters from florida and alabama who literally had to chainsaw their way thru trees in the driveway to get to the airport to fly to san antonio, tx. they took a limo 150 miles to the lodge from the airport.

ya gotta luv a dedicated hunter. not even multiple hurricanes keep them from showing up. one of them is a cuban who asked for my chipotle salsa recipe. the irony was lost on me for a day or two.
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thanx, guys...
i just back in town from the hunting lodge. we had hunters from florida and alabama who literally had to chainsaw their way thru trees in the driveway to get to the airport to fly to san antonio, tx. they took a limo 150 miles to the lodge from the airport.

ya gotta luv a dedicated hunter. not even multiple hurricanes keep them from showing up. one of them is a cuban who asked for my chipotle salsa recipe. the irony was lost on me for a day or two.
yeah, yeah, but did you make my cheesecake?
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Old 09-20-2004, 03:31 AM   #9
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Mudbug, LOL - the image of a bunch of hunters sitting around a campfire eating cheesecake, is too funny!

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wellllllllll, no...they wanted bread pudding with a raspberry bourbon coulis. this was a bunch a southern lawyers. next week we'll have a more 'diverse' crowd. we'll do it then.
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