Makin' bacon.

[dragnlaw]

Thanks GG - I agree with Jon - that's ham!

[GotGarlic]

Originally Posted by Rocklobster

We think smoked ham originated in Virginia

It was around before Virginia existed, but it's pretty popular here.

[GotGarlic]

Originally Posted by dragnlaw

Thanks GG - I agree with Jon - that's ham!

No, ham is from the top of the leg, not the loin, and it's smoked.

[buckytom]

Uh, oh, another shrimp/prawn argument.

I learned the hard way not to try to order plain ham or boiled ham (lunch meat) in a Polish deli. They looked at me like I had 3 heads. Well, after some confusion, they had to go get a girl that spoke better English to understand what I wanted.
Apparently, in Poland there are many, many of different cuts of pork that are cured and/or smoked like a ham, and they are all considered hams in a general way, but they aren't necessarily called ham.

[GotGarlic]

Originally Posted by buckytom

Uh, oh, another shrimp/prawn argument.

I learned the hard way not to try to order plain ham or boiled ham (lunch meat) in a Polish deli. They looked at me like I had 3 heads. Well, after some confusion, they had to go get a girl that spoke better English to understand what I wanted.
Apparently, in Poland there are many, many of different cuts of pork that are cured and/or smoked like a ham, and they are all considered hams in a general way, but they aren't necessarily called ham.

Not every disagreement is an argument.

Sure, different cultures around the world describe foods differently. I was describing what we call these foods in the United States.

[buckytom]

Oh sorry, disagreement. smh.
I was talking in general in the thread, not necessarily to you.

There's also a lot of different cuts and terms for bacon. I much prefer Irish bacon over American style fatty/streaky belly bacon.

[GotGarlic]

Originally Posted by buckytom

Oh sorry, disagreement. smh.
I was talking in general in the thread, not necessarily to you.

Sorry if I misunderstood.

[Rocklobster]

Originally Posted by GotGarlic

It was around before Virginia existed, but it's pretty popular here.

For years it was called Virginia Ham or Smoked Virginia Ham here in Canada..
Funny how some products were labelled certain ways for marketing purposes that weren't necessarily accurate

[rodentraiser]

What's Irish bacon and how is it different?

[buckytom]

Lol, I shoulda been more specific. There are 2 kinds of Irish bacon. Maybe more, colloquially speaking. I've heard the term boiled bacon, or a joint of bacon used in Ireland before as well, which is the meat that Americans replaced with corned beef with cabbage and spuds on St. Patty's day. But those are certianly more of a ham.

But for frying type bacon, the more British version is aka back bacon, or Canadian bacon. It's made from the rear leg or loin.

The one I like is a cut from between the loin and belly; some of both.

It's not as fatty as American bacon, but not as lean as back bacon. There's a good piece of lean meat with a nice strip of fat on the edge.

Here's a pic of Canadian, American, and Irish. (left, top right, bottom right)