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Old 09-12-2013, 09:36 AM   #41
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I agree, but you should know I make a great maple walnut ice cream.
I stand corrected. Maple walnut ice cream is the exception!
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I am with you there. I hate maple flavored bacon.
I do have to admit I like maple smoked bacon. though I do prefer, as usual, hickory.

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The best bacon I ever tasted was organic. How was it better? It just tasted like bacon, but more so, and didn't have those chemical tastes that we don't usually notice. I bought organic bacon again and it was just good, not spectacular like that first package (different brand, I think).
Any uncured bacon should be free of the chemicals (sodium nitrite), organic or no. "Organic" bacon would have to be uncured.
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I do have to admit I like maple smoked bacon. though I do prefer, as usual, hickory.



Any uncured bacon should be free of the chemicals (sodium nitrite), organic or no. "Organic" bacon would have to be uncured.
Does organic mean uncured or the way the pigs were raised? I took it to mean the pigs had no growth hormones and were raised in more of a natural setting, perhaps left to forage. If it's uncured it's just pork belly, isn't it?
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Does organic mean uncured or the way the pigs were raised? I took it to mean the pigs had no growth hormones and were raised in more of a natural setting, perhaps left to forage. If it's uncured it's just pork belly, isn't it?
Yes, it means how the pigs were raised as well as how the bacon was cured. It was cured with just salt. It was frozen.
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Yes, it means how the pigs were raised as well as how the bacon was cured. It was cured with just salt. It was frozen.
But salt is not organic, it's a mineral.
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Yes, it means how the pigs were raised as well as how the bacon was cured. It was cured with just salt. It was frozen.
Thanks. I thought it was still cured, otherwise it isn't really bacon, just smoked pork belly.
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But salt is not organic, it's a mineral.
No, it's not organic and DDT is. But salt is allowed in "organic food" and DDT isn't.

We just don't have a good term for what we mean when we say food is organic. In Quebec, in French it's "biologique", in Denmark it's "°kologisk" (ecological). Unfortunately the term "natural" has been abused.
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...Unfortunately the term "natural" has been abused.
It was the wrong term from the beginning. It's much too broad in meaning to be of any use. That's what happens when advertising executives choose 'technical' terms.
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Does organic mean uncured or the way the pigs were raised? I took it to mean the pigs had no growth hormones and were raised in more of a natural setting, perhaps left to forage. If it's uncured it's just pork belly, isn't it?
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Yes, it means how the pigs were raised as well as how the bacon was cured. It was cured with just salt. It was frozen.

How can anything billed as "organic" contain things that aren't? Sodium nitrite, and sodium nitrate, are not organic. Salts, as mentioned, are not organic. I also thought the purpose of "organic" food was no preservatives, which NaNO2 and NaNO3 both are, and they also pretty nasty if you miss and add too much.

This is why I think they need to change the word. It is misleading and all about trickery and marketing.
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How can anything billed as "organic" contain things that aren't? Sodium nitrite, and sodium nitrate, are not organic. Salts, as mentioned, are not organic. I also thought the purpose of "organic" food was no preservatives, which NaNO2 and NaNO3 both are, and they also pretty nasty if you miss and add too much.

This is why I think they need to change the word. It is misleading and all about trickery and marketing.
When I wrote that there was only salt, I meant NaCl, not nitrites or nitrates. I think there may have been vinegar.

You may not approve of the term "organic" as currently applied to food, but it does have rules. I don't like the term, myself.
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