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Old 11-01-2008, 03:12 AM   #21
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it doesn't sound good, Babe.............call me quack quack.......totally took in the farm yard and all..............
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Old 11-01-2008, 05:11 AM   #22
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still don't quite get it. what is "scaming for click ins?"
Hi babetoo, let me just give you my own experience with my own little website. Two years ago it couldn't be found with a google search and believe me google controls. It was so new and unknow no one could find it if they wanted to, not even down through the eight hundred places that google showed for the strongest key word "ukraine orphans". To bring a site up where it will show in a google search it has to have click ins - ie visits, and enought to bring it within view.

I didn't do anything dishonest, sneaky or underhanded but just kept on working and today it is number four out of almost five hundred thousand citations using "Ukraine orphans" as a google search key word. Not bad.

I added features that brought people in the door - a page of borsch recipes is one (including our very own CharlieD's contributions!). Twenty to one people are more interested in their own stomachs than hungry orphans! But it brings them in. Using "Ukraine links" as a search the site generally is in the top ten out of about thirty five million, and yes that is million, citations.

I don't take a dime for this - don't even use google advertisements for a way to generate a few dollars, I just don't. It's a gift to the orphaned, disabled, sick and disadvantaged children of Ukraine. You are always welcome! Its tag is .net, easy to find. I have just moved in with my daughter and am using her computer. I've got to put a router on the line here so I can get back at it with my own little laptop that has all the files! :)
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Old 11-01-2008, 05:19 AM   #23
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Hey, recipe, I see you're online right now. Are you coming back to share with us? We're all curious to find out about your regional dishes and such. Care to share?
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Old 11-01-2008, 07:21 AM   #24
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Hi babetoo, let me just give you my own experience with my own little website. Two years ago it couldn't be found with a google search and believe me google controls. It was so new and unknow no one could find it if they wanted to, not even down through the eight hundred places that google showed for the strongest key word "ukraine orphans". To bring a site up where it will show in a google search it has to have click ins - ie visits, and enought to bring it within view.

I didn't do anything dishonest, sneaky or underhanded but just kept on working and today it is number four out of almost five hundred thousand citations using "Ukraine orphans" as a google search key word. Not bad.

I added features that brought people in the door - a page of borsch recipes is one (including our very own CharlieD's contributions!). Twenty to one people are more interested in their own stomachs than hungry orphans! But it brings them in. Using "Ukraine links" as a search the site generally is in the top ten out of about thirty five million, and yes that is million, citations.

I don't take a dime for this - don't even use google advertisements for a way to generate a few dollars, I just don't. It's a gift to the orphaned, disabled, sick and disadvantaged children of Ukraine. You are always welcome! Its tag is .net, easy to find. I have just moved in with my daughter and am using her computer. I've got to put a router on the line here so I can get back at it with my own little laptop that has all the files! :)
Thanks, David.......if someone wanted to make a contribution to the orphans how would they go about it??? I refuse to donate to organizations that spend most of your $$$ on admin costs............maybe you'll need to pm me so that we don't take up thread space..........thanks
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Old 11-01-2008, 10:27 AM   #25
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ok, can you explain what that means in English??? have we wasted our time in welcoming him???

Yes Expatgirl;

The only reason this person posted is to have that link at the bottom listed.

There are spiderbots that catalog information for Yahoo, Google, AOL and such. (this is many of the Anonomous you see when looking at "Who is online") People are paid to go place these links on forums so the spiders find them and catalog the site as linked to another site with higher traffic. Moves them up in the ratings when the search is completed.

I am admin for another cooking site and we fight this constantly. It got so bad two years ago that a group of us that Admin social network sites formed an alliance to share data that allows us to kill most of these posts prior to them being catalogged.

That was good, but it also increase our SEO impact numbers, since the sites were so clean of tags, that made the sites more of a target as the impact of getting a link through is so dramatic.

But recently in working with the google spiders we have found a way to reverse the effect. On some sites we allow the spider to come through to a forum the members can not see but it can catalog, then the spider is programmed to come back.... anything missing from the last visit receives a reverse weighted rating since it was removed by admin as a spam or porn link or SEO link farmer.

Anyway I could go on but it is techie stuff no one is really interested in... but we use it to make our real paid for links worth a lot more money. Revenue streams are the key to keeping social networks going.
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Old 11-01-2008, 10:29 AM   #26
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Hey, recipe, I see you're online right now. Are you coming back to share with us? We're all curious to find out about your regional dishes and such. Care to share?
Only online to check and see that the link has not been removed. This person will be monitoring about 50 of these sites for that link.

Admin would be well served to remove it.
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Old 11-01-2008, 01:42 PM   #27
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Yes Expatgirl;

The only reason this person posted is to have that link at the bottom listed.

There are spiderbots that catalog information for Yahoo, Google, AOL and such. (this is many of the Anonomous you see when looking at "Who is online") People are paid to go place these links on forums so the spiders find them and catalog the site as linked to another site with higher traffic. Moves them up in the ratings when the search is completed.

I am admin for another cooking site and we fight this constantly. It got so bad two years ago that a group of us that Admin social network sites formed an alliance to share data that allows us to kill most of these posts prior to them being catalogged.

That was good, but it also increase our SEO impact numbers, since the sites were so clean of tags, that made the sites more of a target as the impact of getting a link through is so dramatic.

But recently in working with the google spiders we have found a way to reverse the effect. On some sites we allow the spider to come through to a forum the members can not see but it can catalog, then the spider is programmed to come back.... anything missing from the last visit receives a reverse weighted rating since it was removed by admin as a spam or porn link or SEO link farmer.

Anyway I could go on but it is techie stuff no one is really interested in... but we use it to make our real paid for links worth a lot more money. Revenue streams are the key to keeping social networks going.
Wow.......I had no idea.......thanks for the explanation.........stupid jerks................
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Old 11-01-2008, 08:21 PM   #28
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Actually this person never wanted to be a member. The link to the Recipe URL in the signature is all they wanted to accomplish. They believe they are doing Search Engine Optimization minipulation when they tag these links on tons of different forums.
Basically this person is a forum spammer is what he means.
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Old 11-01-2008, 08:25 PM   #29
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So why don't we just stop beating a dead horse and get rid of it?
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So why don't we just stop beating a dead horse and get rid of it?
It was gotten rid of quite a while ago. The post is still there, but the link is gone.
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