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Old 08-27-2013, 09:10 PM   #11
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First of all, I would never set the self clean and then go to bed. I hate waking up to the sound of firefighters kicking down my door.

When I do a self-clean, I take out the racks, but I put my pizza stone and the stainless steel tank from my deep fryer inside.
Well at least I should have done it upon rising while drinking my morning coffee, when the heat wouldn't matter.
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Old 08-27-2013, 09:14 PM   #12
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Man, that's sparkling clean!! The auto clean feature is nice....but not on hot, humid days like what we've been having these past few days...:)
Anyway, that's a beautiful oven and am glad you're enjoying it!

Incidently, I was at my daughter's over the weekend and while she was preheating her Wolf range oven for some baked potatoes I noticed some smoke so I asked her when was the last time she cleaned the oven. Well apparently it has never been cleaned in the year and a half since she bought the house with this oven. It has the big red dial with no 'clean oven' selection. I assumed using easy off and following its direction was the way to go with her particular model so that's what I told her to do. I hope I gave her the correct advice.
I don't know what model she has but she should try the self clean feature. I'm totally certain that my laborious oven cleaning days are over, except for taking a damp towel to wipe up the ash from the clean oven.

I was amazed that you can strip out the insides in 5 minutes, then put them back in 5 minutes. You could probably just leave them there, but the owner's manual says the stainless steel racks may discolor if left in during self clean.
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You don't have a lot of choices if the oven is not a self-cleaner.
Sure you do. You can use Easy Off oven cleaner or one of the competing products.

Or you can just push a button...
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Old 08-27-2013, 09:20 PM   #14
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I don't know what model she has but she should try the self clean feature. I'm totally certain that my laborious oven cleaning days are over, except for taking a damp towel to wipe up the ash from the clean oven.

I was amazed that you can strip out the insides in 5 minutes, then put them back in 5 minutes. You could probably just leave them there, but the owner's manual says the stainless steel racks may discolor if left in during self clean.
I'd definitely take them out. They not only discolor, but they also won't slide as smoothly. My range just has the metal contours holding in the racks so it is just a matter of sliding them out, but yours has the much nicer gliding racks.
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...but the owner's manual says the stainless steel racks may discolor if left in during self clean.
Yes, they do but they are nice and clean! They also don't slide well after cleaning so I wipe them with a oiled paper towel per the owner's manual.
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Old 08-27-2013, 10:06 PM   #16
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Well it takes 5 minutes to take the stainless steel racks, 5 minutes to put them back, and I prefer mine not stained, so I'll stick with the factory advice.

Gawd, as I stare into that stripped and cleaned oven, I think "staring into the abyss..."

This oven is so beautiful, but you'd expect that considering the ($4K) price. I'm sure you could get just as good (Viking) but I'm pretty sure the price and feature difference would be insignificant.

I just last weekend visited a BFF's brother and sister in law, and they had just bought Viking about the same time I bought my Wolf. We had a great talk! I'm sure the main differences are just appearance, not any functional differences.
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Well it takes 5 minutes to take the stainless steel racks, 5 minutes to put them back, and I prefer mine not stained, so I'll stick with the factory advice...
I don't leave the shelves in because it's too much trouble to take them out. I can do that in about 10 seconds. I leave them in so they get cleaned along with the rest of the oven. There will be a time when you have a bad spill on the shelves and they will need cleaning. Hang on to that Easy-Off.
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Old 08-28-2013, 06:44 PM   #18
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That's a good idea Andy, using Easy Off to clean the racks. I use it on pots and pans with difficult stains too.


One additional comment about my oven cleaning, I stupidly did it on a hot day and it does generate a lot of heat--my air conditioner kept the rest of the house fine but I spend most of my time in my family room (den)--with my family (4 footed kind, my sr. citizen 15 year old dog)--and I had to set up a fan (in addition to my ceiling fan) to keep my family room comfortable.

Also, the oven cleaning does generate a smell, not real unpleasant but not pleasant either, and I could still smell it this morning. I'm not blaming Wolf for this, if you incinerate dried fat spatters into dried powder any stove is going to generate the same smells. I don't blame the manufacturer or design for this, IMO it's just a fact of physics and chemistry and reality.

It's also possible since this is the first time I ran a cleaning cycle that it might have generated additional smells. The owner manual suggests before first using it you should run it at 350 for an hour (or something like that) to burn out any lubricating grease or other factory contaminants, which indicates to me that the factory never ran a cleaning cycle or otherwise that step wouldn't have been necessary.

Anyway its fun to have an oven that may be worth more than a few of my neighbor's (used) cars! Well to be truthful I spent all my money on my house (and my Wolf oven and cooktop) and I'm pretty sure I'm the poorest guy on my block, or at least near that.

But I am pretty sure few if any of them have better ovens or cook tops. I visited my best friend's brother and sister in law, and they'd just installed Viking about the same time I bought my Wolf. Diane had the 36" Viking cook top and Viking dual ovens. (Okay and Viking microwave convection oven.) Yeah I was outclassed but I don't feel too bad. I have better than I've ever had before, I probably don't need more than 4 burners, and I'm sure I don't need dual ovens.

My house doesn't have a built in microwave, possibly a good thing. I got a 1100 watt Hamilton Beach at Walmart for $65 and it works fine. And if it quits working I can just throw it away and get another MW oven.

Anyway I'm very pleased with my Wolf oven and cook top. It's the best I've ever had, its the best I'll ever have, and it's easily as good as I'll ever want or need.

Just for the record, I think Wolf and Viking are neck and neck, easily comparable on every feature and equivalent in price too. I think it's a coin toss which you get. I picked the Wolf mostly because the appearance appealed more for me.

The only serious feature difference between the Wolf and Viking ovens (for me) was that the Viking has traditional dial controls while the Wolf has a digital touch panel. In the two months I had my GE oven I did like the digital touch panel controls, and Wolf's digital control panel plus the appearance appealed more to me were the deciding factors that made me go Wolf not Viking. I also liked the appearance of the Wolf cook top vs. the Viking, for reasons I can't define. Personal preference.

Considering the negatives (heat, smell) I plan to schedule my next cleaning for early in the morning (6 a.m.?) and believe it's a good idea to do it frequently rather than let it build up.

Oh, and after my cleaning was finished my oven appeared as good as new! (After wiping it down with a wet paper towel.) I really love that deep blue porcelain interior and the shiny, easily removable racks.
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Old 08-28-2013, 07:36 PM   #19
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Greg, since you've had that oven for about five minutes , I don't think you really gave the self cleaning feature a true test. I'm sure it will do just as well if the oven is dirtier the next time.

My rule is, when I can smell the oven preheating, it's time for a cleaning.

I'm glad you're enjoying your new toys as much as you are.
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Thanks Andy! Truly, I've been fantasizing about having this setup for 2-5 years. I'm trilled, it was everything I expected, and more.

It may amuse you, when I sold my old house (2 years ago) the range was malfunctioning (the oven would often refuse to light) and I had to buy a cheap-o. Okay I didn't really cheap out but I bought the least expensive Kenmore--$350. It was nice... But heck, I just spent $2K for the cook top and $4 K for the oven, and there is just no way to compare $6K cook top and oven with a $350 range.

But I'm happy. I sold my old house to a young couple (with baby) who were thrilled to buy my old house, and they got a pretty good deal, and a new stove too. And picky as I am I fixed every damned thing in that house including fresh paint in every room (and I even filled and painted the holes my art left behind) and new carpet.

A year ago I used to drive by and cry, wishing I could have my old house back. I've been past there a few times in the last few months, and the old place is looking good, they've continued to improve it and I'm sure they'll love my old house as much as I did.

The only thing I really miss is my wood burning fireplace. I have a gas-only at my new place. I wanted real wood but I'll have to admit that the push button on/off and no ash cleaning is an advantage, even if it doesn't pop and crackle and emit the nice wood burning smells. (I can get some incense for that.)

But really, the Wolf was totally worth it, considering (as I've often repeated) that I expect to live in my new home about 30 years (until I kick or until I need assisted living). Assuming good luck and good health I'll enjoy this new cook top and oven for the next 30 years.

I'm still amazed at the 10-12 cooking modes in the oven, including a bread proof mode. I've already made focaccia once (not my best but I was too impatient to let it rise properly). With my new tools I'm sure I'll create some good content for our forum in the next few years.
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