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Old 09-10-2017, 09:42 AM   #11
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My son (cop) and his partner once asked Siri, as a joke, if there were any hookers nearby. Imagine his surprise when Siri answered that there was an Escort Service with an address right beside them. What a laugh that was!
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Old 09-11-2017, 06:58 AM   #12
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They are a potentially serious invasion of privacy. Alexa is always listening. It's how it knows when you are asking a question. There was a recent criminal trial (a murder I think) where the prosecution subpoenaed Alexa recordings from Amazon as evidence in the trial as it's always listening and Amazon obviously records that stuff.
That's not exactly true. What these devices do works more like an endless tape loop. They always have about the last minute's worth of sound recorded in memory, then it just loops around and starts over. Once it "hears" the wake word, it then sends everything from that point forward until there's a long enough pause for it to determine you are finished. Then it sends the command to Amazon for processing.

It saves every command it hears, but that's it. In this sense, it's not any different than a web browser. Alexa (or Siri or Google) doesn't save background noise or potentially embarrassing recordings of you singing when you think there's no one around.

If people are worried about that sort of thing, there's also the Echo Tap, which is an Alexa device where you have to physically push a button to send a command. It's not listening at all otherwise.
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Old 09-11-2017, 08:09 AM   #13
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I have the dot and I love it. Feels like I live in the Jetson house. The shopping list alone is worth it. I bought a $30 Bluetooth speaker and hide it behind the curtain 20' away and the sound clarity is awesome. Naysayers did the same thing with the desktop computer, now your phone as more computing power than the lunar module did.
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Old 09-11-2017, 09:40 AM   #14
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Steve: Consider this (and other) links: https://www.wired.com/2017/02/murder...otion-privacy/

Amazon acknowledges there is data and admits to saving data though it's a slim possibility it could be incriminating.
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Old 09-11-2017, 04:13 PM   #15
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Steve: Consider this (and other) links: https://www.wired.com/2017/02/murder...otion-privacy/

Amazon acknowledges there is data and admits to saving data though it's a slim possibility it could be incriminating.
That's what I'm saying. Yes, they do capture data. I can go back and look and listen to all the commands that it's recorded. All I'm saying is that the devices don't record and store everything. Only the commands you give it.

Unless someone said a phrase containing the wake work, for example, "ALEXA, I am going to kill my hot tub guest right now", it wouldn't be transmitted or stored in Amazon's database.
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Old 09-11-2017, 04:36 PM   #16
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...Unless someone said a phrase containing the wake work, for example, "ALEXA, I am going to kill my hot tub guest right now", it wouldn't be transmitted or stored in Amazon's database.
Unless it was said in the background as Alexa was being addressed. It's a far-fetched chance of gathering any useful information but it exists at some small level.

I wonder if the Alexa device can be "turned on" remotely to act as a listening device either by hackers, law enforcement or Amazon...
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Old 09-11-2017, 04:39 PM   #17
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If I were single I'd probably get her.
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Old 09-11-2017, 06:36 PM   #18
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If I were single I'd probably get her.
I would say, 'go for it'. A woman that has no questions of her own and doesn't want to know what you were thinking! Priceless.

When Siri first came out, my single uncle had her, and we were talking on the phone and he asked Siri something and Siri answered. I stated that it was clear now that he was married. ha ha, though, she has a very attractive voice.
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I would say, 'go for it'. A woman that has no questions of her own and doesn't want to know what you were thinking! Priceless.
Well.....not Samantha. This one's way more sophisticated.

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Old 09-11-2017, 07:32 PM   #20
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I must see this movie "Her"!
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