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Old 07-01-2013, 02:29 AM   #51
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I bet Melinda Gates did raise their kids. After all, she quit working at Microsoft not long after she married Bill so that they could start a family. Both of them are very involved in helping groups that help children. I bet even their kids have been taught to give back. Better pick another rich one to pick on!

If you want to be sure, I can see if my old neighbor can track Bill down at the MS campus the next time he heads up to Redman to teach a seminar, although Al has never run into Bill that I know of. FWIW, my old neighbor could BE Bill Gates! I swear we lived next to Bill's doppelganger!
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Old 07-01-2013, 02:32 AM   #52
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I've been looking for one of those sets for my kitchen. Seems like they were very "retro" popular for years, and now that I could use to replace my little kitchen table, I don't see them so much.
You might be able to find those sets in antique shops. I see a lot of them in the different towns in NE CT where there are clusters of the shops together. Saw them for $$$ too, right after we gave my parents' set away. *sigh*
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Old 07-01-2013, 02:47 AM   #53
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I bet Melinda Gates did raise their kids. After all, she quit working at Microsoft not long after she married Bill so that they could start a family. Both of them are very involved in helping groups that help children. I bet even their kids have been taught to give back. Better pick another rich one to pick on!

If you want to be sure, I can see if my old neighbor can track Bill down at the MS campus the next time he heads up to Redman to teach a seminar, although Al has never run into Bill that I know of. FWIW, my old neighbor could BE Bill Gates! I swear we lived next to Bill's doppelganger!
I didn't say she didn't help her kids. What I stated was, "Was it in the kitchen?" They probably have a study room just for doing homework.
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Old 07-01-2013, 11:15 AM   #54
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You might be able to find those sets in antique shops. I see a lot of them in the different towns in NE CT where there are clusters of the shops together. Saw them for $$$ too, right after we gave my parents' set away. *sigh*
That's not nearly as bad as what a friend of mines parents did. They lived in the country. Some time in the '50s, they got rid of the "yucky" old wooden furniture and replaced it with a "nice", new chrome and Formica kitchen table and vinyl upholstered chairs. They burnt the old stuff. They figured it couldn't be very good because it was really old - it had been in their family for many generations.
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Old 07-01-2013, 12:32 PM   #55
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We ate in the kitchen--our parents ate in the dining room after we were in bed--around 8 p.m. They ate different meals than we did, what, I have no idea because we were in bed before they ate. We moved when I was 7 and the house was open concept so we also graduated to eating with our parents (my oldest brother was 11 by this time...hmmm...maybe that's why he has social issues...). We never graduated to eating with the adults on holidays--there were too darned many of us so we all ate in the addition that was added on to the kitchen and the adults ate in the dining room.
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Old 07-14-2013, 05:13 AM   #56
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That's not nearly as bad as what a friend of mines parents did. They lived in the country. Some time in the '50s, they got rid of the "yucky" old wooden furniture and replaced it with a "nice", new chrome and Formica kitchen table and vinyl upholstered chairs. They burnt the old stuff. They figured it couldn't be very good because it was really old - it had been in their family for many generations.
My mother did the same when clearing my grandmother's house. She burnt a Victorian chaise longue (circa 1860)which had belong to my great-grandmother, and my aunt and I only just managed to wrestle the "lady's" (the one without arms to accomodate her skirts) and the "gentleman's" (with arms) spoon-back chairs and one dining chair from mother's hands as she headed for the bonfire the second time! I now have them in my house.

What goes round comes round. I recently saw a 1950s formica/chrome furniture on sale at an extortionate price in an "antique" shop. the dining set was priced at 420 in the end-of-season-sale. The next time I passed they had a "sold" notice on them!
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Ooookay, that's really sad. I cannot imagine sending the kids off to eat by themselves - sure there's the kid's table at holidays, but it was set up as near to the main table as possible. Lack of space is not the same as actual total segregation. Adults talked to the kids and vv during the meal. Also lots of adults and kids spread throughout the house where space is available. I can't imagine not eating until the kids go to bed, or not eating dinner (and every meal possible) with your own kids.

But anyway.

My ideal kitchen would not be separate from the main living area. I have no use for a separate dining room - a spot for a table, sure. I'm all for the great room concept, and I do mean GREAT room.

I have little use for kitchen cabinets, either over or under the counter. I can't reach most of what's over, and I can't squat down to get at most of what's under. Drawers I can manage.

I like pantries, not cabinets. In our current kitchen, which is HORRIBLY designed (there are NO windows in the kitchen at all, talk about cheaping out on construction) there is a vaulted ceiling. The wall cabinets that are there (and there are not very many) are mounted higher on the wall than usual, with the result that I can't reach but the bottom most shelves, and my 6' tall son can't reach the top shelves.

So, given my druthers - minimal cabinets, shorter than usual because I can't reach the top shelves anyway, and give me pantry space. I want windows. I want an open floor plan. I want enough space to do actual work. I like an island in the center of a larger space. I want access from the kitchen area to a deck or patio.

I do NOT want a washer and dryer anywhere but on a slab in a utility room or in the lowest level of the house, yet most houses put the w/d just off the kitchen - RIGHT where I want my pantry space. If/when I get so old that I can't manage a single flight of stairs to the basement, it's time for a single story dwelling, LOL!
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