Haven't been to the thrift sore lately, but I have been helping a friend prep to cook for 300 at a retreat in the Seqouias. She needed big pots and pans, and had some but not enough. Combined, we had enough. She was cooking rustic, five propane burners and a bbq pit, with water hauled in. Yesterday, I did manage to swing by one of my favorite stores, and found these two pans. Big, stainless steel, copper clad, loooong handles. She could have used them. I snagged them, even though they were costy for this place...$6.95 each.