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Old 01-05-2012, 08:11 AM   #31
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How about the baby formula? They manufactured a product that was killing their own people. Unfortunately there was a trial, the people responsible were found guilty and excuted. No appeals. The people of China do not value life the same way we do.

Many of the toys they send over here are loaded with lead. I have a friend that is a longshoreman on the West Coast. He told me that a lot of the stuff coming in from China, is sent back as unacceptable. Electronics are shoddily made and would definitely cause injury. A lot of the toys are sent back as too dangerous for a child to play with. We only hear about the ones that managed to get through.
Even worse than toys or baby formula, how about medicines? GlaxoSmithKline plc is a global pharmaceutical, biologics, vaccines and consumer healthcare company headquartered in London, United Kingdom. It is the world's third-largest pharmaceutical company. They make a product called Avandia for diabetes.

Studies, completed by the highly-respected Cleveland Clinic in 2007, found that Avandia increased risks of heart attack by 43%.But do we hear of it as loudly as we hear of the Chinese baby formula incedent? Nope. Most people never heard of it at all.

I'm not saying that Chinese products are free of faults, but I'm saying that they are improving quite a lot. Let's remember the tens of thousands of litigations in progress and finalized against shoddy products right here in the USA. Made in USA doesn't mean it's perfect and safe. We make lots of junk also. House fires are caused every day by electric devices made in the USA.

As far as safety goes, manufacturers in the USA had to be forced by law into following even the minimum of safety practices. Even today, OSHA catches and fines American companies every day for unsafe work areas and products. Look up the stats on OSHA's findings.

It just seems to me that everyone is so ready to blame China for eveything wrong in their life. It's a money thing, not a country thing. Greedy manufacturers trying to cut costs. It happens everywhere.

As a whole, I like Chinese people. I don't think much of their country's politics, but hell, I don't think much of the USA's politics either.

As far as manufacturing goes, businesses try to make things with as low of cost and high profit as possible. Lots of times, that causes an unsafe product because of shortcuts. That isnt' unique to china. Like I said, it happens every day with products made in every country.

When the Chinese government finds a problem with blatant greed that causes deaths, at least they don't tie up their court system with appeals and endless costly trials with politicians making publicity off it. They find out who did it, take them out back and put a bullet in their head. Then they charge the guilty persons family for the bullet.
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Old 01-05-2012, 09:23 AM   #32
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Timothy - well said!

The product quality issue is not a country issue. It has nothing to do whether it's from a specific country. It's the manufactorers' onus to control and maintain the quality standard; and the regulators' too. Unfortunately, the big companies chase profits, not goodwill.

Anyway, let's drop this as I see this can become an endless topic which both sides can make numerous arguments and go on and on... let's just move on with slow cooker.
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Old 01-05-2012, 09:28 AM   #33
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My personal experience with slow cookers and other electric appliances has been good so far.

I leave my slow cooker on for 8 hours while I'm out. I never had any worries.

But hey - this is very personal. I can't say one's concerns are not legitimate. Accidents do happen. It's a probability, or sheer luck or unluck when looking at individual case.

I think if you worry about safety and feel uncomfortable leaving it on unattended, you are completely reasonable to not to do that. Without using slow cooker, you can still manage to have dinner ready in reasonable amount of time after you get home in the evening. If you are happy with that way, it's totally fine.
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Old 01-05-2012, 09:32 AM   #34
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Timothy - well said!

The product quality issue is not a country issue. It has nothing to do whether it's from a specific country. It's the manufacturers' onus to control and maintain the quality standard; and the regulators' too. Unfortunately, the big companies chase profits, not goodwill.

Anyway, let's drop this as I see this can become an endless topic which both sides can make numerous arguments and go on and on... let's just move on with slow cooker.
Thanks Savory! I agree totally. Product safety is an endless finger-pointing venture. Let's all get back to the topic of the forum; Cooking and Food!

I've used slow cookers for about 40 years without a single problem. I have no stats to prove it, but I would think the incidence of fire caused by faulty circuitry in slow cookers would represent about 0.001% of their total use. Think of how many millions of slow cookers on thousands of days, are left on all day while their owners are at work.

I think it's a non-problem.
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Old 01-05-2012, 11:49 AM   #35
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My husband and I got into a discussion over whether or not I could leave for work with the slow cooker on. I presented my case, but he was still worried it would start a fire. We were having this discussion as I was making beef stew. I loaded up the slow cooker, turned the dial and left the house.

When I got home, I found the meat completely raw, and the dish looked just like I had left it that morning. Naturally, I called him to only to find that he didn't touch the crock pot. I tried to figure out what was wrong with it. I turned the dial, I checked to see if it got hot... nothing! I had forgotten to plug it in.

I guess I just wasn't supposed to leave it on that day. We ended up tossing several pounds of beef, tons of beautiful veggies, and having frozen pizza for dinner. As I look back, it could have been a lot worse.
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Old 01-05-2012, 12:25 PM   #36
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I am all about the slow cooker and I regularly leave it on all day while i'm out with no supervision! I thought thats what they are for?!'
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I find it best to cook on the lowest setting, especially with absence of 6 hours or more. Interested to know how it turns out.
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Old 01-05-2012, 12:34 PM   #38
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I try to buy "Made in America" whenever I can. If it is union made. even better. Made in China gives me the willies. If I had to pick a foreign country where something is made, I have to say Mexico.
For me they would be either Germany or Japan, and you'll be paying higher prices for quality products.
But as far as buying crockpots in Germany or Japan, chances are, theirs are made in China as well.
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I find it best to cook on the lowest setting, especially with absence of 6 hours or more. Interested to know how it turns out.
My crock pot is a Rival "Smart Pot".

It maintains 300F (verified by me) and cooks for 4, 6, 8 or 10 hours with one button push.

I love the thing and have never had a bad meal from it. The settings for 4-6 hours are marked as "High" and the 8-10 hour settings are marked as "Low". I've measured both and they hold 300F after ramping up to it. I think the time it takes to ramp up is the difference between low and high.

I categorize it as a "Perfect Slow Cooker".
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It's fine.
I'd never got any problems to do this. But for sure, check that your crock has automatic warming.
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