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Old 03-12-2008, 09:13 AM   #1
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Sharpening a Japanese knife

I just picked up a Tojiro Flash damascus knife and was wondering what the best type of stone to use for it is. Im familiar with sharpening on a stone and have a fairly steady hand. But do water stones work best for japanese knives or am i better off getting an arkansas stone or one of DMT's Diamond surfaces? im probably going to be sticking to japanese knives from now on too, this one just blows the henkels and whustoff's i have away. Thanks in advance for all the wonderful feedback i know im going to get :)

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Waterstones are the tried-and-true way to sharpen Japanese knives- that's the Gold Standard, but there's no reason you couldn't use other typed. I'd avoid diamond stones but others use them to good effect. Be aware when you sharpen that Japanese knives are generally ground to a much finer angle than German knives (although you probably already noticed that).

I'd recommend Dave Martell's DVD set "The Art of Knife Sharpening" to get you started. He's the owner & operator of JapaneseKnifeSharpening.com and is a wizard with a stone. His 2 disc set will teach you virtually everything you could want to know including the care and selection of waterstones and his techniques for finding the angle.

Good luck! I think you're already finding out that Japanese knives can quickly become an addiction!
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I just picked up a Tojiro Flash damascus knife and was wondering what the best type of stone to use for it is. Im familiar with sharpening on a stone and have a fairly steady hand. But do water stones work best for japanese knives or am i better off getting an arkansas stone or one of DMT's Diamond surfaces? im probably going to be sticking to japanese knives from now on too, this one just blows the henkels and whustoff's i have away. Thanks in advance for all the wonderful feedback i know im going to get :)
You can keep this knife going for a long time with waterstones. I would avoid DMT DiaSharps except for reprofiling with an XXC. I use Nortons with great success but if you don't mind the price Shapton GlassStones yield an excellent highly polished edge with minimum effort and no need for soaking. They are less messy - basically the latest thing.
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Old 05-02-2008, 01:12 AM   #4
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I just bought a Tojiro DP 6" Honesuki and am wondering how to go about sharpening it when the need arises. Its a one-sided blade. Its a cheaper knife i got for both experimentation and practice with different edges.

I own a 1000 and a 6000 grit wet-stone as well as an array of steels ranging from smooth to coarse to diamond (though i dont think they are used on one-sided blades as much).


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I just bought a Tojiro DP 6" Honesuki and am wondering how to go about sharpening it when the need arises. Its a one-sided blade. Its a cheaper knife i got for both experimentation and practice with different edges.

I own a 1000 and a 6000 grit wet-stone as well as an array of steels ranging from smooth to coarse to diamond (though i dont think they are used on one-sided blades as much).

Many thanks. ~Y
The very best information I have ever seen on the subject is here.
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I just bought a Tojiro DP 6" Honesuki and am wondering how to go about sharpening it when the need arises. Its a one-sided blade. Its a cheaper knife i got for both experimentation and practice with different edges.

I own a 1000 and a 6000 grit wet-stone as well as an array of steels ranging from smooth to coarse to diamond (though i dont think they are used on one-sided blades as much).


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You can keep this knife going for a long time with waterstones. I would avoid DMT DiaSharps except for reprofiling with an XXC. I use Nortons with great success but if you don't mind the price Shapton GlassStones yield an excellent highly polished edge with minimum effort and no need for soaking. They are less messy - basically the latest thing.
You have such cool tools.

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95 swipes on the bevel side and 5 on the flat side.
If only it could be that easy, but it's not.

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Old 05-02-2008, 10:38 AM   #9
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If only it could be that easy, but it's not.

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Why not?

Here's another good source of information. Amazon.com: The Razor Edge Book of Sharpening: John Juranitch: Books

I have another title, but cant remember it off hand. I'll try to post it tonight.
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Here's another good source of information. Amazon.com: The Razor Edge Book of Sharpening: John Juranitch: Books

I have another title, but cant remember it off hand. I'll try to post it tonight.
I've had the Juranitch book for years. Good basic information but we've come a long way since then. The book is twenty-three years old. Juranitch assumes that all angles are flat because he's sharpening chisels. Not so in this case. The entire backside of a Japanese single bevel knife is hollow ground as is the large bevel on the front, a totally different animal than Juaranitch was dealing with. He's probably never even seen a Japanese knife. Anyway, I shelved his book a long time ago because I'm really not interested in sharpening ice augers, chain saws, arrowheads, and fish hooks. He also shamelessly pushes his products in a book that I had to pay for. Good basic information, that's it.

Did you read the reference I posted above? That is the way you sharpen a Japanese knife.
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The very best information I have ever seen on the subject is here.
Good link Buzzard, I sharpen all my knives to the single bevel and use a 1000 grit diamond stone
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Good link Buzzard, I sharpen all my knives to the single bevel and use a 1000 grit diamond stone
And then, of course, you'll want to add a little bling by polishing up to the Shinogi line.....
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And then, of course, you'll want to add a little bling by polishing up to the Shinogi line.....
A little bling ??? Now you've got me, what's bling - I quess it's for the final polish.

Another plus for the single bevel knife sharpened for a right hander is that a left hander won't pinch it
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A little bling ??? Now you've got me, what's bling - I quess it's for the final polish.

Another plus for the single bevel knife sharpened for a right hander is that a left hander won't pinch it
Bling is in its most animalistic form a sexual come on as in "ooh, you think that knife is pretty? Let me show you how to hold it..."

You're an Aussie - didn't you notice that my Usuaba is a mollydooker?
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"Bling." You know, like ice or grillz or dubs.
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