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09-30-2009, 08:13 PM
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#1 | | | | | | | Assistant Cook
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In this uncertain economy I have been slowly trying to buy a little more each week and stock up for a rainy day. My question involves buying #10 cans of food items and store them in Mason jars using the food saver to vacuum seal them.
I searched the web and haven't found any good answer to this question other then one person remembering Brianschef in one of his posts had successfully re-canned fruit. Hopefully, I can find an answer here.
What I thought was, if you sanitize the bought can by soaking it in chlorinated water for say a half hour, wipe it dry before opening and with sterilized Mason jars readied, re-portion the contents and then vacuum seal the jars using the food saver or other appropriate suctioning device.
Would that be a safe enough method?
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09-30-2009, 09:34 PM
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#2 | | | | | | | Executive Chef
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Nope and if you happen to do that with low-acid foods you will create an environment for the Botulism toxin to flourish.
BTW, "sterilizing" doesn't really do much unless your entire environment (like an operating room) is also totally sterile, otherwise any contact with the air, your breath, hands, utensils, etc., etc., instantly transfers germs and bacteria and no more sterile. Even in home canning, pre-sterilizing jars has been eliminated as long as processing time is 10 minutes or more.
You might also read: National Center for Home Food Preservation | Canning FAQs
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10-01-2009, 08:27 AM
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Sounds like you would blow a whole lot of money on emergency room visits...
"re-canning" is no way to save money.
Look for case lot sales that will allow you to buy smaller cans in larger quantity for a lower price point per item.
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10-01-2009, 08:34 AM
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You could freeze the contents in smaller packages. But the canning idea would NOT work.
If I can peaches, and have a jar that doesn't seal, my only options are to use it immediately, refrigerate for a couple of days, or re-can it, redoing the whole process of boiling and sealing. The peaches would be mush if I recanned them.
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10-01-2009, 09:08 PM
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With regards to swarrowgrass's comment That is what I wanted to do. Take contents from the store bought can and put in smaller portions using canning jars (not re-canning process) and refrigerate in a vacuum sealed environment using the food saver system
As I understand, using a food saver the contents will last longer.
Maybe, I am completely missing something here?
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10-01-2009, 09:49 PM
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#6 | | | | | | | Executive Chef
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Your initial post implied lots of storage of #10 can contents, assuming for a long storage period, and no mention of refrigeration.
Assuming that refrigeration is included in the procedure, vacuum-sealing the contents will probably extend the usefulness of the food by a couple weeks. Not really helpful for long-term storage.
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10-02-2009, 06:45 AM
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Thanks, mcnerd. I should have been clearer with my post. My fridge is quite large and I could utilize the extra space. That's where the jarring idea came in. I figured if I can get an extra couple weeks, it would be worth it over the long run.
I figured on freezing some items (that freeze well) also. My idea was to buy in bulk, but only open the bulk cans as needed and jar the rest.
Just thought it would save money after the initial investment of the food saver and jars.
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10-02-2009, 08:40 AM
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#8 | | | | | | | Executive Chef
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I still wouldn't do it. Gambling with food poisoning is not a money saving idea. We used to belong to a large warehouse club, Sams', but realized that the storage issue and the large size portions were not all that economical. I do better by buying items on sale, more frequently.
Re-jarring, or whatever you want to call it, of commercially prepared food is a dangerous practice. and for what? to save a few pennies? Our local grocery store has case-lot sales, and regular sales on canned items that turn out to be cheaper than the larger containers.
I would recommend that you sharpen your shopping skills instead of playing Russian Roulette with repackaging food.
Granted, We buy larger cuts of meat and repackage when we get home, but that is different. Preparing fresh food for repackaging is different than opening a commercially prepared food, then rejarring it.
What types of foods are you thinking of doing this with?
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10-02-2009, 10:09 AM
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I can't imagine that vacuum sealing would extend the life of already canned food at all. The microbes in the air would contaminate the food, no matter how carefully you sterilized everything.
Not a good idea. Divide the can into freezable portions, or buy smaller cans.
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10-02-2009, 11:32 PM
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#10 | | | | | | | Assistant Cook
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Well, it looks like the general consensus is not to chance it. So, I think I will take the advice on the canned goods.
What I don't understand though is why is it ok to vacuum seal bagged food like rice, cookies, crackers and the like. I would think if these microbes hold true, wouldn't that affect that food as well. I have had pickles, relish, tomato sauce, ketchup, mustard in the fridge for months and never had a problem.
The canned goods I was thinking of would be fruits and veggies. No meat products.
Please don't take this the wrong way, I'm just trying to understand.
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