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justplainbill 10-16-2007 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Claire (Post 495578)
When I was a child living in Germany, night soil was used as fertilizer very commonly. If I remember correctly, we were warned to more or less sterilize the fresh produce. My mom thought if the Germans could eat it, we could (don't get me wrong, she washed it as we all wash our fresh produce, she just didn't soak it in a bleach solution). My sisters, parents, and I are still alive and healthy.

Ditto for when I lived in Italy. Never did use the bleach powder solution. Seems the 6 months of composting may be an important factor.

AllenOK 10-16-2007 08:04 AM

If you all think this study is "just plain not right", I'm wondering, do you consume commercially-grown mushrooms? If so, you might want to research how they make the compost.

Constance 10-16-2007 10:04 AM

The Chinese use human waste for fertilizer, and I suppose a lot of other cultures do as well.
I remember some 25 years ago, the powers that be in Chicago decided that it would be a great idea to ship their liquid sludge down here for the farmers to use in their cornfields. That idea did not go over so well with southern Illinoisans, however. You can imagine some of the comments that were made.
I did have a friend who would go to our local waste treatment plant and bring home truckloads of the powdery dried sludge for his vegetable garden. It made good fertilizer, although he got lots of volunteer corn and tomato plants. LOL!
I do love nothing better than to get a load of rotten cow or horse manure for my garden, but cows and horses eat only grain.

I am not familiar with the term "night waste", but am assuming it means the contents of chamber pots? I didn't know anyone used those anymore.

As for the mushrooms, they used to be grown in horse manure. I think they use a special mix nowadays.

keltin 10-16-2007 01:00 PM

Hereís how one mushroom farm grows their shrooms.

This facility is one of the largest users of "green waste" in the state, as the compost is comprised of recycled wood chips from wall board manufacturing as well as organic waste from two of the Southland's top race tracks: Santa Anita and Hollywood Park.


Organic waste from a horse race track? Hmmmm.........:ohmy:

keltin 10-16-2007 01:10 PM

Speaking of fertilizer, when I was growing up in mobile, my younger brother took a job at a plant that made fertilizer out of seafood waste (shells, discarded meat/meal, shrimp heads, scales, etc). He worked there for one night and quit.

That is the WORST smelling stuff Iíve ever come across. We had to burn his clothes since we couldnít get the smell out of them. And two weeks after that, he sold his car because we couldnít get the smell out of that! Horrible stuff.

jpmcgrew 10-16-2007 01:17 PM

:smile:No way no how.However I do believe horse manure or horse manure tea is a great fertilizer.From what I understand the Germans make horse manure tea for their growing needs.I think of it as instant compost.:lol::lol:

BreezyCooking 10-16-2007 01:39 PM

I'm truly shocked & "almost" (lol) speechless that such a group of intelligent people - unless they're just out to start an argument - can be so obtuse.

There is a BIG, BIG, BIG, BIG, BIG, BIG, BIG - did you hear me say BIG? - difference between the use of composted urine-impregnated bedding & feces from herbivores (i.e. cattle, horses, sheep, goats, etc.) AND the use of urine & feces from omnivores & carnivores (i.e. dogs, cats, primates, HUMANS).

For those of you here who apparently don't know the difference, & the health hazards of using/composting omnivore/carnivore products, please take the time to do the research yourself before engaging in such idiocy. I don't have the time.

I'm truly taking the stance that this whole topic was just meant as an arguement starter, because I don't really think the vast majority of folks here plan to start peeing/dumping on their compost piles or plan to begin dumping their cat litter boxes & scooping their dog poop on there as well.

keltin 10-16-2007 01:43 PM

Yeah.....but.....itís still poo! Poo by any other name would smell as rank. :lol::rofl:

BreezyCooking 10-16-2007 01:48 PM

Glad to see how much you're enjoying this Keltin.

My only point was to prevent someone from thinking that human urine as fertilizer was a good healthy idea & thus perhaps ending up sick. Period.

I'm through with this thread. Enjoy yourselves.

justplainbill 10-16-2007 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BreezyCooking (Post 495754)
I'm truly shocked & "almost" (lol) speechless that such a group of intelligent people - unless they're just out to start an argument - can be so obtuse.

There is a BIG, BIG, BIG, BIG, BIG, BIG, BIG - did you hear me say BIG? - difference between the use of composted urine-impregnated bedding & feces from herbivores (i.e. cattle, horses, sheep, goats, etc.) AND the use of urine & feces from omnivores & carnivores (i.e. dogs, cats, primates, HUMANS).

For those of you here who apparently don't know the difference, & the health hazards of using/composting omnivore/carnivore products, please take the time to do the research yourself before engaging in such idiocy. I don't have the time.

I'm truly taking the stance that this whole topic was just meant as an arguement starter, because I don't really think the vast majority of folks here plan to start peeing/dumping on their compost piles or plan to begin dumping their cat litter boxes & scooping their dog poop on there as well.

Don't be so sure what cattle are being fed. The more protein in, the more nitrogen out. Chicken manure can be pretty potent, especially free range:tongue:.


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