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rmalik23 02-07-2008 07:41 PM

Cookbook Ideas
Hi, my name is Rohan. I am a new member on the forum site. For my high school, I am making a cookbook for my graduation project. I want it to be a moderately sized cookbook. Maybe around 25-40 recipes? But, I only want to do desserts and sweets. Does anyone have any ideas? I don't mind a challenge.

kitchenelf 02-07-2008 07:54 PM

Well, you need to gather dessert and "sweet" recipes. What you need to be careful of is using recipes that are protected by copyright laws. I suggest you read this to get started. Then you just need to search. It shouldn't be hard.

browneyedgirl 02-07-2008 10:46 PM

Hi Rohan! I'm new here too but I really like your idea for a project! As long as it isn't a top secret project, why not ask your classmates for their favourite sweet recipes? My kids certainly had favourites when they were teenagers, and I'll bet your friends' mothers would be delighted to be asked for their recipes! Or maybe you could collect recipes from your family, friends, and neighbours? I would think that most people would be willing to help with a school project, and some would likely be willing to share several recipes!
As far as gathering recipes from cookbooks, I would think that as long as recipes are rewritten putting things into your own words you shouldn't have any problem with copyright. People can't copyright an idea like for example Chocolate Brownies, but what they can copyright is the particular way they present that idea, using their photos of the brownies and their own words giving step by step directions. Have you thought about doing a specialized cookbook, for example Desserts with Peaches (or whatever fruit is abundant and produced locally), or say Sweets of the Great Depression (1930's), or are you just going for a general desserts and sweets theme? It sounds like a great project, I wish you luck!

kitchenelf 02-08-2008 12:09 AM

browneyedgirl, what a great idea about collecting recipes. Maybe even do "Grandma's Desserts and Sweet Treats" - take it one step beyond the parents of friends!

archiduc 02-12-2008 05:17 PM

Hi Rohan,
What a fabulous idea for a graduation project. I think you have taken on a big challenge. I`m based in the UK so I`m not sure what age you will be to be doing this for a graduation project.

I`ve written recipes for publication in the past and also taught students at University level - 18 plus about doing this and would be delighted to offer help and advice. Anyway, I`m just going to jump in and offer you some advice.

1. Any published recipe is subject to copyright and you need to bear this in mind. however, many recipes may be altered by you to create your unique interpretation of that dish, in which case the recipe becomes yours.

2. If you wanted to include a particular recipe in your project, you could try to contact the author, explain what you are doing and see if they will let you print it. In this case the recipe becomes one "Reprinted by kind permission of xxxx".

3. If you are going to give a number of recipes you need to be extremely careful to ensure that the conversion relationships are the same for each recipe. In the UK we use metric, eg., 25 gms and, Imperial, i.e., ounces - 1 ounce. This means that every recipe should be tested by being made using metric measurements for one trial and Imperial for another before being published. Recently, some books have been published in the UK and publishers have had to post revisions to recipes due to problems. The issue, I think, is because proof readers are not chefs/cooks and cannot read the recipe. As a consequence they don`t know when there is a mistake. If I was marking your work, I would be looking to see whether you are consistent in your ingredients. Let me give you an example. If in one recipe you said 200g/8oz butter, I would question and mark you down if you stated 250g/8oz butter in another recipe. Do you see what I`m getting at?

4. You could ask your class mates for ideas/recipes but I suspect you will have to test them all for yourself. This will take time so you need to build this into your project planning.

5. Desserts/puddigns can be sub-divided into anumber of sections. For example:
- Batter > pancakes
- Pastry > choux - profiteroles
shortcrust - lemon tart
puff pastry - mille feuilles
- Milk based > rice pudding
-Custard based >Creme Caramel
- Fruit based > hot > baked apples
cold > summer fruit pudding
-Steamed puddings> gingerbread pudding
- etc., etc., etc.,

The point that I`m trying to make here is about balance in the variety of recipes. Do you wnat a balance or do you wnat all the recipes, for example to be pastry based?

6. Many desserts are served with accompaniments which may be a sauce or a biscuit or both. Will these be included with your recipe or given in a separate section?

7. People like to see what the end result will look like - will you be including photos in yur book? here is an opportunity to add value and demonstrate another skill to the examiner!

8. Sweets - cooked or uncooked or both? Cooked include things like toffee, fudges, caramels and Scotch tablet - let me know if you`d like a recipe. Uncooked include peppermint creams, truffles, uncooked chocolate fudge.

9. Any good recipe book requires a detailed index which the user can use to look up, for example a recipe using oranges or a particular type of pastry. This takes a lot of time and cannot be done until you`ve written the recipes and know what is on each page! Again, if I was an examiner/marker, I would be looking at this very carefully.

OK - I`ve given you enough to think about for a while. Let me know if I can be of any further use.
Good luck,

rmalik23 02-12-2008 07:28 PM

Well, here is the proposal; I turned into my mentor.
I will post the recipes I have decided to use so far, tomorrow.

[FONT='Verdana','sans-serif']My family likes to cook a lot. We love eating different types of food. My parents are amazing cooks; they can cook just about anything. But, one problem area is dessert. I love to eat pastries, and cakes. I believe a dessert is the one thing, which makes a person remember the food they ate. Not only is it the last item in the course, it is usually also the sweetest. [/font]
[FONT='Verdana','sans-serif']I want to educate and introduce my family into the world known as desserts. I would like to make a cookbook for my family and friends. It will be similar to published cookbook, having color pictures, for everything between apple pie to zebra cakes. Making this cookbook will also help me improve my skills in organization and cooking. Plus, it will also expand my taste to other cultures as well as sharpen the knowledge of my own culture. [/font]
[FONT='Verdana','sans-serif']I believe I have some creative skills, and this project could also help me determine my future career. My project plan is simple, yet will be challenging to make compared to some of the commercial books out today. I plan to make a cookbook that can mock a commercial cookbook. I plan to use all color, specific instructions, original recipes, and large photos. My project can only be completed after I personally cook all the recipes myself. So, only after a cake is done, and taste tested, will it go into the book. All donors of recipes will get full credit for their work. The steps to make the book will be getting the recipe, making it, changing the recipe to make it taste better if needed, or easier to understand, taste testing it with friends, then publishing it in the book.[/font]
[FONT='Verdana','sans-serif'] The good thing about my project is I can work on it anywhere, at any time. However, I will mostly be working on it at home, and putting the finals touches on it, either at Staples, or Fed-Ex Kinko’s. That would consist of laminating it, and adding a spine to it. The project shouldn't cost too much, since it is only a book. I will mostly be spending all the money printing off the large color photos, since they will have to be high quality, to show the texture. I will also probably be spending a good amount of money on ingredients. [/font]
[FONT='Verdana','sans-serif']My parents have agreed to fund the project, since my dad was a chef, and also has great interest in this project. My parents and my mentor will be helping me the most for this project, but just about anyone with any insight can help. It can be a parent who cooks for his or her family, or a professional chef at a restaurant. I might have to research some recipes on the internet, to see how they are formatted and how the instructions are explained. I will also be watching the Food Network a lot more, to see how chefs operate. [/font]
[FONT='Verdana','sans-serif']I will mostly be using a computer, video camera, digital camera, and printer. I am doing this project for many different reasons. The main reason is to open up my family to different kinds of foods, and to gain an insight into cooking for a profession. I have a lot of experience in cooking from my parents and their friends. I also took a few cooking classes in many different areas. I am very patient and open minded. I will give everything a try, and then make up my mind on it. I expect to learn a lot more about cultures. I will be looking into places all over the world, for the most exotic and unusual recipes. I also expect to learn about professional cooking, and how sharp my skills are at cooking.[/font]

jkath 02-12-2008 08:21 PM

Splendid idea, and fabulous help from DC members too! I think it's great that your family is really into this too - how nice!
I like your intro (but remember that our forum can't take html...otherwise I'd be in a really curly font-lol)

I can't wait to see some of your ideas!
PS - wereabouts are you from?

archiduc 02-12-2008 09:12 PM

Hi Rohan,
You seem to have a lot of objectives attached to this assignment. I`l have to read what you`ve written a bit more thoroughly to make sense of them - my fault not yours - it`s 3 am here!!!!!!!!

As this is for an assignment, I assume you will be required to write a report as well(?). If so, can I suggest that you start a "project diary" now so that you know what you did when and with whom you had contact when. Get a book, at the start keep the diary and working from the back use the space to keep your ideas as you progress through the assignment.

In the UK students have to identify personal contacts, internet sites used etc., in the course of assignments - I presume it is similar for you - is it? If so start keeping records now.

Keep in touch,

rmalik23 02-13-2008 11:24 AM

Yes, we have to keep journals and reciepts. Even get signatures from mentors to show we actually did something. My final plan is to make a 3ft. by 3ft. fully edible chocolate garden. My family is from India, hence me calling desserts "sweets" haha.

rmalik23 02-16-2008 07:07 PM

The recipes I have decided to use so far are apple strudel, cheese cake puffs, chocolate peanut butter cups, chocolate raspberry cups and pear and cranberry strudel with caramel sauce.

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