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bourbon 08-01-2009 04:51 AM

How bad is MSG
 
I've searched online and have seen everything from it causes most every disease know to man, to it's harmless. Does anyone here have facts about msg.

Arky 08-01-2009 05:31 AM

MSG linked to weight gain

by Chris Sparling
Aug 28th 2008

Monosodium glutamate (MSG), a flavor enhancer frequently used in Asian cuisine, can cause you to gain weight, new research published in the journal Obesity suggests. Rural Chinese men and women who consumed the most MSG were more than twice as likely (2.75 times - ed.) to be overweight than their peers who didn't use the additive.

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Health: MSG & Weight Gain

Reporting: Stephanie Stahl
PHILADELPHIA (CBS 3) ―

Researchers at the University of North Carolina followed people in rural China. They all ate the same healthy foods. Some used MSG, others did not.

"We analyzed the data and found that those who used MSG are more likely to be overweight than non-users," said Dr. Ka He, University of North Carolina.

In fact, the researchers found three times the rate of overweight people in the high MSG-use group compared to the non-users.

For years, animal studies have suggested a possible link between MSG and obesity. This study is the first to make the connection in humans, but at this point there's no explanation.

Because the government considers it safe, there are no warnings or restrictions on MSG.

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Does MSG Make You Fat?

Monosodium Glutamate Linked to Obesity

Fiona Wilkinson
http://graphics.suite101.com/icon_article.gif Oct 10, 2008


...There may be several reasons for these results. One could be that MSG led individuals to eat more food or be less active. However, this was accounted for in the study, meaning the link between MSG consumption and increased body weight appears to be independent of these factors.
This suggests MSG may have one, or several, metabolic effects on the body which may predispose people to weight gain. Giving MSG to animals has been shown to induce various changes that promote fat accumulation including suppression of fat breakdown.

GB 08-01-2009 06:34 AM

The stuff about MSG allergies is mostly false. Most people who think they are affected by MSG are not. It is all in their heads. I am not saying that no one is affected, but it is no more than any other substance. There are people who are allergic to every type of food out there. MSG does not cause more reactions than any of those. The media scared people about it years ago and people believe the crud they were shoveling. The mind is a very powerful thing so if you think something is going to make you sick then your mind actually will make you sick.

MSG is in tons of products that people eat every day who claim to have a bad reaction to MSG. Some of the products are:

bullion cubes
Doritos
BBQ sauces
Salad dressings
Canned, frozen, or dried prepared foods
Potato and tortilla chips
Seasoning mixtures
Canned and dry soup mixes
Soy sauce
Worcestershire sauce
McDonalds, KFC, Burger King and most other fast foods
Boars Head deli meats

The list goes on and on. Like I said, the mind is a VERY powerful thing. If you think something is going to make you sick then it will. Tons of people who claim to be allergic to MSG eat it every day without realizing it and do not have any issues. Again, I am not saying that it is in everyone's head. There are people who are genuinely affected, but it is just a vey very very small fraction of the people who claim it.

msmofet 08-01-2009 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by GB (Post 841238)
The stuff about MSG allergies is mostly false. Most people who think they are affected by MSG are not. It is all in their heads. I am not saying that no one is affected, but it is no more than any other substance. There are people who are allergic to every type of food out there. MSG does not cause more reactions than any of those. The media scared people about it years ago and people believe the crud they were shoveling. The mind is a very powerful thing so if you think something is going to make you sick then your mind actually will make you sick.

MSG is in tons of products that people eat every day who claim to have a bad reaction to MSG. Some of the products are:

bullion cubes
Doritos
BBQ sauces
Salad dressings
Canned, frozen, or dried prepared foods
Potato and tortilla chips
Seasoning mixtures
Canned and dry soup mixes
Soy sauce
Worcestershire sauce
McDonalds, KFC, Burger King and most other fast foods
Boars Head deli meats

The list goes on and on. Like I said, the mind is a VERY powerful thing. If you think something is going to make you sick then it will. Tons of people who claim to be allergic to MSG eat it every day without realizing it and do not have any issues. Again, I am not saying that it is in everyone's head. There are people who are genuinely affected, but it is just a vey very very small fraction of the people who claim it.

i agree!!

Arky 08-01-2009 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GB (Post 841238)
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MSG is in tons of products that people eat every day who claim to have a bad reaction to MSG. Some of the products are:

bullion cubes
Doritos
BBQ sauces
Salad dressings
Canned, frozen, or dried prepared foods
Potato and tortilla chips
Seasoning mixtures
Canned and dry soup mixes
Soy sauce
Worcestershire sauce
McDonalds, KFC, Burger King and most other fast foods
Boars Head deli meats

The list goes on and on...

I would say that pretty much makes the case for the rising rate of obesity among Americans!

GB 08-01-2009 06:43 AM

I would hardly say that makes the case. What about the lack of exercise Americans get or the ridiculously large portions we consume or the fatty foods we eat?

Arky 08-01-2009 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GB (Post 841241)
I would hardly say that makes the case. What about the lack of exercise Americans get or the ridiculously large portions we consume or the fatty foods we eat?

I agree. Those too...!

GB 08-01-2009 07:17 AM

Some more info...

Quote:

Chemist Leonid Tarasoff and statistician Michael Kelly of the University of Western Sydney recently completed a double-blind study on 71 volunteers of the effects of high doses of MSG before a standard breakfast. Some reaction to MSG was experienced by 15 per cent of the volunteers. However, 14 per cent also reported aftereffects when given a placebo of gelatin powder. 'Most had no reaction at all to MSG or the placebo,' says Tarasoff.
Quote:

MSG Causes Headaches (aka Chinese Restaurant Syndrome): "Jeffery Steingarten, food editor of the Vogue in New York, debunked this myth pretty comprehensively. Given the widespread use of MSG in China, he asked why weren’t there a billion Chinese people with headaches? He then went around relentlessly researching the theory in his characteristically thorough way, and came to the conclusion that MSG, taken in normal quantities, was perfectly safe." (I know many people who swear they get headaches after eating MSG, so I'm reluctant to accept this as an urban legend. But some quick research reveals that a controlled study at Harvard University also concluded that MSG in food doesn't cause headaches.)
YouTube - Food Detectives proved MSG is Safe part 1
YouTube - Food Detectives proved MSG is Safe part 2

And see this NY Times Article.

bethzaring 08-01-2009 07:26 AM

I remember this discussion on this forum a few years ago....I went into it thinking MSG was evil, but came away from the discussion believing it is benign..

Arky 08-01-2009 07:48 AM

Not ever having suffered any of the reported side effects from MSG, I still prefer to err on the side of caution when possible and not play Russian Roulette with my health or the health of my guests by deliberately adding MSG to anything coming out of my kitchen.


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