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Stevie 01-17-2005 04:52 PM

All Clad non stick opinions
 
Hey, I'm very happy with the the AC pans I have and was thinking about buying a non stick fry pan. I've read that they also carry a lifetime warranty. Has anyone every owned one and if so what is your opinion?

wep896 01-17-2005 06:10 PM

All Clad Non-Stick
 
Cooks Illustrated rates these pans at the top of their list.

GB 01-17-2005 06:31 PM

I would guess they would be very high quality as all their other cookware is. Before you drop a large chunk of change on it though, as yourself what you will be using it for and if you really need it. Will a less expensive non stick pan do just as well?

Andy M. 01-17-2005 08:24 PM

I'm of the opinion that all non-stick coatings will scratch or wear off before too long.

I decided some time ago to buy good but inexpensive non-stick skillets and toss them when they lose their non-stick qualities.

I regularly see heavy aluminum skillets with Silverstone coatings in three-packs (8", 10" & 12") for around $20.00 for all three.

When they crap out, I don't feel guilty about tossing them and buying new ones.

All-Clad is great stuff and their skillets will most likely last longer than my $20.00 items. However, for the cost dofference, there's no comparison.

GB 01-17-2005 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy M.
I'm of the opinion that all non-stick coatings will scratch or wear off before too long.

This was definitely true a while ago, but I am not sure how accurate this is now. It seems like now the non stick coatings hold up much better. I agree that they do wear out over time. Not completely, but they do lose a bit of non stickness (yes that is a new word I am trying to get to catch on). What is different now is how they perform after scratched. In the past it seemed that if they scratched then the coating would start to chip off from the scratch. Food would also stick on the scratch. The newer pans do not seem to have this problem as much. I have a Calphalon pan that has a scratch. It has been there for about 2 years. The scratch is deep, but nothing has ever stuck to it and it and nothing has chipped off.

Since all Clad has a lifetime warranty, you could theoretically return the pan once the non stick coating starts to wear as long as it is not scratched or you don't do anything to void the warranty. You pay a lot of money up front instead of $20 every few years as the pans wear out. Once nice thing about the $20 pans is that you don't have to be very careful and you don't have to feel guilty if you use a metal utensil on them.

Ardge 01-18-2005 07:09 AM

The lifetime warranty for All Clad is in play ONLY when defects warrant the pot or pan to be returned. Loose rivets, rusted rivets, warped bottom, etc. -- manufacturing flaws in general. The warranty DOES NOT cover scratched nonstick surfaces.

I love my All Clad cookware. I have about 20 pieces of theirs that I can think of off the top of my head. Each and every piece is stainless steel.

My nonstick pans are few. None are All Clad. I subscribe to Andy's theory and never buy expensive nonstick. It is inevitable that they will scratch. There are no kid gloves gentle enough in the kitchen to guarantee a scratch free lifetime.

I stick to the $20 - $40 range for my nonstick pans.



Me

mjsorkin 01-18-2005 08:15 AM

Get the All-Clad, it will be awesome. There is no substitute for a top quality product, and All Clad is top quality.

GB 01-18-2005 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ardge
The lifetime warranty for All Clad is in play ONLY when defects warrant the pot or pan to be returned. Loose rivets, rusted rivets, warped bottom, etc. -- manufacturing flaws in general. The warranty DOES NOT cover scratched nonstick surfaces.

Yes this is correct. The warranty DOES cover the pan if the non stick coating is not longer as non stick as it once was though. as long as you do not abuse the pans ( scratch then, put them in the dishwasher, use metal utensils, etc.) they will replace it.

Ardge 01-18-2005 09:34 AM

GB, show me an old nonstick pan that needs replacing that DOES NOT have scratches on it.

Nonstick pans get dinged up just hanging next to regular ones. At least in my kitchen they do. :lol:


Here's the rest of my 2 cents, then I am gonna shut up in this thread....

If you have the money to buy All Clad cookware, why buy something that eventually will need replacing? Warranty or not, a $120 fry pan should last you forever. Stainless will. Nonstick will not. All Clad, Anolan, Calphalon, or anyone else. Nonstick needs replacing at some point in time. The timer starts the second you first use it. In the event you choose to claim your warranty, there will most likely be a few lines to stand in and a few people making it hard for you in the process.

"Did you use metal on this nonstick surface?"
"No, those scrapes are from my silicone spatulas."

lol

I'm too busy for lines. I get enough frustration elsewhere.

I say buy cheap nonstick pans. Toss them after a year or so. No guilt.

Save the $120 for a purchase that you can pass down to your kid's grandchildren.

RJ

GB 01-18-2005 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ardge
GB, show me an old nonstick pan that needs replacing that DOES NOT have scratches on it. RJ

Ardge, next time you are in MA, stop by my place. I will cook you up a nice meal and then show you a few old nonstick pans that do not have scratches. they do have some wear, but no scratches.

Don't get me wrong. If I were to need new non stick pans right now, I would probably get a cheap one as you are advocating. I do have Calphalon non stick pans that we got as a wedding gift that I really love though. They are very heavy and the non stick coating is very durable as long as you treat it somewhat carefully. I love the fact that they are so heavy. I have yet to see a cheap non stick pan with as much weight.

The way I see it, both have their positives and negatives. The positives of the All Clad is that they are heavy, well constructed and warrantied for life. You know you are getting a quality product with them. The negatives are the price and the hassle of invoking the warranty when you need to. The positives of the cheap pans are that they are inexpensive. You do not have to feel guilty if you scratch them or use them hard. the negatives are that they do not weigh as much as the more expensive pans. You also have the hassle of re-buying them every few years (incidently it is the same long line you are standing on to buy your replacement pans Ardge, that you would need to stand on to return a pan for a replacement under the warranty).


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