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07-09-2012, 11:56 AM
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Head Chef
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: USA
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"B" Rated Restaurants...
In my neck of the woods, restaurants receive a rating ("A" being the best), that must be displayed in the window.
There are 3 Chinese restaurants I have frequented over the years, & have noticed a "B" rating in the window. I have asked about the rating, but mostly I get a vague answer, i.e. "Didn't clean up" or "Not enough money to pay the Health Inspector." Not really clear on the answers.
One of my favorite Chinese restaurants has been around for over a decade. Lately I have noticed the noodles are gummy/sticky, & had to toss them out.
My question is, would you eat in a restaurant with a "B" rating?
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07-09-2012, 12:20 PM
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Master Chef
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Location: Chesapeake Bay
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It would depend on what the criteria is. Where I used to live it was so easy to get an A that it had to be pretty bad to get a B or C.
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07-09-2012, 12:40 PM
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Sous Chef
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: California's Big Valley
Posts: 867
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Where I live? Probably not, but it depends. A "B" rating would mean that the health department found something and warned the restaurant that they needed to correct it. It might not be as bad as a dead rat under the stove, but maybe uncovered ingredients in the kitchen. I've never heard that the inspectors get paid off in this area.
Last year a local bakery was given a temporary "B" rating because the inspector found an open bag of flour next to the mixer while a batch of cookies were being made.
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07-09-2012, 12:43 PM
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Executive Chef
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: in my kitchen
Posts: 3,794
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These ratings are based upon health code requirements and violations of same. They have nothing to do with the quality of cooking or with how delicious or well prepared the food is.
IIRC "A" = meets all the most stringent health code, cleanliness and food handling requirements, "C" = if they did any worse we'd shut them down, but they skated by this time. ("B" is of course middling.)
It would be interesting to ask for a kitchen tour. I've never asked that.
p.s. I am discussing these ratings in Los Angeles. Of course these ratings could vary widely throughout US.
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07-09-2012, 12:50 PM
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Ogress Supreme
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Wyoming
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I've never lived anywhere they gave ratings that had to be displayed, at least none I remember. I do know that the M&P Bakery I worked in never had a complete passing grade until I started working there and I would not hesitate to buy their goods or eat at the lunch counter.
Most violations that were given out in the places I worked were things like the temp on the walk-ins and freezers were one to two degrees off or the bleach water for cleaning was not the correct percentage.
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07-09-2012, 12:52 PM
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Certified Pretend Chef
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 47,594
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Call or go online to the Board of Health (or whatever department) and get explanations of the ratings.
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07-09-2012, 04:05 PM
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Executive Chef
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 4,198
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We have to display our score which is accompanied by a letter grade. Our inspections along with anyone else are online and you can see the entire report.
Getting a B here would require a lot of small violations or a vary large one. Holding temperatures are weighed heavily here. In a restaurant, the restrooms can weigh them down, say if when the inspector showed up there was no soap in the dispenser, no towel or hand drying device, or overall cleanliness.
Here I probably wouldn't eat at a "B" since I know they may have serious problems. I would keep an eye on them and if it quickly went back up to an "A", I would give them another shot, because they could have been having a bad day, new or poorly trained employee, etc.. If their score hovers in the low 90's and dips to a "B", then it would indicate to me that they may be lax on sanitation.
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07-09-2012, 04:26 PM
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Chef Extraordinaire
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: My mountain
Posts: 21,539
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FrankZ
It would depend on what the criteria is. Where I used to live it was so easy to get an A that it had to be pretty bad to get a B or C.
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+1.
i've never noticed anything but an A rating displayed anywhere. a B rating would be an advertisement that the place failed an inspection for various reasons, usually cleanliness, and who knows if they've had time or the wherewithal to correct them.
i don't really have much faith in the truthfulness of a displayed A rating, but i certainly wouldn't eat at a B or less rated restaurant.
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07-09-2012, 05:06 PM
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Wine Guy
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota
Posts: 6,345
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I've never heard of this letter grade thing. Is it something new?
I have to admit it sounds like a pretty good idea, though. Kind of like the Scarlet Letter... except with "A" being a positive.
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07-09-2012, 05:16 PM
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Chef Extraordinaire
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Australia
Posts: 13,114
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I have not seen any food rating over my side of the world
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07-09-2012, 05:24 PM
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Master Chef
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Chesapeake Bay
Posts: 9,878
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Kroll
I've never heard of this letter grade thing. Is it something new?
I have to admit it sounds like a pretty good idea, though. Kind of like the Scarlet Letter... except with "A" being a positive.
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It is not new but it is state by state.
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"First you start with a pound of bologna..."
-My Grandmother on how to make ham salad.
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07-09-2012, 05:48 PM
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Traveling Welcome Wagon
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Somewhere, US
Posts: 15,716
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PrincessFiona60
I've never lived anywhere they gave ratings that had to be displayed, at least none I remember. I do know that the M&P Bakery I worked in never had a complete passing grade until I started working there and I would not hesitate to buy their goods or eat at the lunch counter.
Most violations that were given out in the places I worked were things like the temp on the walk-ins and freezers were one to two degrees off or the bleach water for cleaning was not the correct percentage.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Kroll
I've never heard of this letter grade thing. Is it something new?
I have to admit it sounds like a pretty good idea, though. Kind of like the Scarlet Letter... except with "A" being a positive.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FrankZ
It is not new but it is state by state.
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I learn something new every day! I thought the letter-grade system was nationwide. I remember seeing the letters in restaurant windows in San Diego when I was as young as 6 or 7. In fact, around here they show both the letter and a percentage.
Our local newscasts (Columbia and Charlotte) have weekly restaurant reports, where they show which restaurants have received the highest grades, lowest grades, and those which have brought bad ratings up. They explain what the letter alone can't--why they got the bad rating. Our Columbia CBS affiliate, WLTX, gives a "Golden Spatula" award to one restaurant each week, for having consistently good ratings.
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07-09-2012, 06:00 PM
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Master Chef
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 6,442
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kylie1969
I have not seen any food rating over my side of the world
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It isn't a food rating. The system deals with the health code and violations of the standards.  LOL, sometimes I wish it was about the food! Fast foods, garbage chains would disappear!
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07-09-2012, 06:11 PM
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Chef Extraordinaire
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: My mountain
Posts: 21,539
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i doubt it.
lots of people would just get used to eating a "c" food diet.
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07-09-2012, 06:34 PM
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Master Chef
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 6,442
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Quote:
Originally Posted by buckytom
i doubt it.
lots of people would just get used to eating a "c" food diet. 
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"Filet O' Fish" or a "Whaler". I've always pondered what "Ocean Whitefish" was.  There is a place here that specializes in crabs. Captain Crab's Take Away". That just doesn't sound right.
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Emeralds are real Gems! C. caninus and C. batesii.
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07-09-2012, 06:41 PM
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Chef Extraordinaire
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: My mountain
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lol, eat with the captain and get crabs.
kinda like joes gas station and diner.
eat here, and get gas.
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The past is gone it's all been said.
So here's to what the future brings,
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07-09-2012, 08:57 PM
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Executive Chef
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: in my kitchen
Posts: 3,794
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Kroll
I've never heard of this letter grade thing. Is it something new?
I have to admit it sounds like a pretty good idea, though. Kind of like the Scarlet Letter... except with "A" being a positive.
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In Los Angeles it began several or a dozen or more years ago. I don't even recall seeing the letters lately, although IIRC they are required to be posted in plain view. I think my eyes just filter them out now.
It's not a good thing (my not seeing them) but it is a good idea in that some public pressure is brought against restaurants that are not so bad as to be closed by the health department but bad enough they need to show improvement or be threatened with loss of business.
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07-09-2012, 09:01 PM
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Executive Chef
Site Moderator
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 4,198
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I appreciate the ratings. It also helps that I work in food, and know first hand how places are inspected. It's also great that our health inspector chooses our store to shop in, she has lots of choices in the area and she shops with us!
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07-10-2012, 07:25 AM
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Head Chef
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: usa
Posts: 2,223
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Recently moved from a state that has ratings to a state that doesn't.
BIG difference!
Here, we often notice that restaurants are dirty... like dead, dusty flies
on the windowsills, caked on dirt on blinds, spotty glasses....
Not so much in national chains, but in local eateries, the use of hair
nets, gloves and other sanitary devices is unusual.
We pick carefully where to eat these days.
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07-10-2012, 09:39 AM
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Master Chef
Site Administrator
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Chesapeake Bay
Posts: 9,878
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GrillingFool
Recently moved from a state that has ratings to a state that doesn't.
BIG difference!
Here, we often notice that restaurants are dirty... like dead, dusty flies
on the windowsills, caked on dirt on blinds, spotty glasses....
Not so much in national chains, but in local eateries, the use of hair
nets, gloves and other sanitary devices is unusual.
We pick carefully where to eat these days.
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They don't post ratings here (that I have seen) but I have to believe they do inspections.
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