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Old 04-25-2005, 07:18 AM   #1
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Opinion on exercise and eating right

What is your opinion of someone who runs to the gym every morning but goes to McDonald's to eat? Does this make sense to you? They want to 'look' good but their ideas of health are not included. Do you think it really matters what you eat? I am beginning to doubt the fact that 'you are what you eat' due to the simple fact the food we buy isn't as nutrional as what it was in the past. I thank you for your input. They have already told me no matter what they eat it doesn't 'show' and so they eat what they want. Is this the purpose of exercise? I am confused.

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Kinda like gettin a donut and a diet coke?
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Old 04-25-2005, 08:46 AM   #4
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Hello. Please don't listen to these people. I think you know what is "right" here.

I personally think they a have very immature and narrow minded attitude towards health and most likely towards life. It definitely matters what you eat. Fresh foods are what is natural and good for you, processed foods are not and it's all about moderation and balance. Good for them that they excercise. They may figure the nutrition aspect of it out eventually. Hopefully before their first by-pass surgery.

I think that as long as you cook for yourself and use natural food items that you should be fine in the long run (of course organic or raising food yourself is ideal but most of us don't have the money, time, or space). Our forefathers didn't have as much cancer, diabetes, obesity, and heart disease back when because they ate off the land, not out of a can or a box or ordered dinner through a speaker box.

So, what about the person that eats perfectly organic w/ wholefoods and all that business and doesn't excercise. That isn't good either. We must do both.

Jeez, am I on a soapbox or what!!!! I couldt go on about the "you are what you eat" quote for awhile but I won't.

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Old 04-25-2005, 09:07 AM   #5
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You Are What You Eat?

Thanks for your strong input. That is exactly what I was taught to always eat what I knew was best. At least I try to figure out what is necessary to live right. My father ate oatmeal everyday and lived up to good age as well as my mother who was the cook in the family. She started fixing supper by peeling, steaming, and setting the oven. In other words, it wasn't something she could add water and it was done. I question my understanding due to the fact that when I breastfed my first child the doctor and his nurses told me it wasn't worth it due to the fact they didn't know if he was getting the right nutrition. Bottle feeding supposedly was way they could tell what he drank and what he was getting. Being the hard head I am, I do what my mother did and continured to nurse him. He thrived and they did not comment after that. No encouragement or criticism did they do. After the first I did what I wanted and felt I knew better. Since that experience with the doctor someone I respected voiced his disapproval, I seem to doubt my own thoughts. Seeing someone exercise only to eat wrong is stupid in my opinion. However, as I said I feel better since you said you agreed. Thanks and you only reinforce what my mother taught me. Guess you mom said the same thing.
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Old 04-25-2005, 11:44 AM   #6
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There is a yelowish colored fluid that is delivered befor the milk actually starts flowing when a child is breast fed. If my memory serves correctly, this is called cholosterum. It carries antibodies and helps the kick-start the childs own imune system. After that, the human milk is richer in the nutrients a human child requires than is any formula. Wheter you believe strictly in evolution, or that all was created by God, human milk is perfectly designed for human babies.

Just look at nutitional information given by so many differring "experts". No one can give a difinitive answer. Would I trust the health of my child to any of those experts? I don't think so. Besides, almost every respected scientific or nutritional periodical I have read says breastfeeding is the best., unless the mother can't produce sufficeint milk for the child.

As far as proper nutrition and exercise is concerned, they are a requirement of the human body. That's what it was designed for. The body is supposed to be worked, to interact with it's suroundings. Proper fuel is needed for maintenance, growth, and operation, including mental ability. The body is a biological machine of amazing complexity. It requires sodium, but in the proper amount, water, magnesium, arsenic, zinc, and a host of special chemicals that we refer to as hormones, vitamins, phyto-chemicals, iso-flavones, and trace minerals. each plays a role and has a function. The body was designed to use these and they are provided by what we eat.

Fast food was designed to make money, not provide sound nutrition. The fact still remains that a good diet contains a wide variety of vegetables, especially those with deep color, be it red, green, yellow, etc., and fruits, whole grains, meats, fats, and lots of water to transport nutrients and wastes to their proper locations. Portion control is also essential. We have been taught to eat huge amounts. We need to retrain ourselves and our children to eat moderate amounts of a lot of things. Add movement to that, and you have what it takes to live a healthier life.

The body is the machine that allows the spirit to interact with the physical universe. The two comprise the whole soul. Either without the other is just plain energy or matter. Both require maintenance and upkeep, including exercize.

Hope this helps.

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Old 04-25-2005, 01:25 PM   #7
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Before I started watching what I eat, I would never understand why I would see people order huge McDonalds Supersized meals, and then order a diet coke. Since I am more concscious of what I eat now, I understand. I would much rather eat my calories than drink them. Maybe that's the whole donut and diet soda thing. :-)
On a side note, I haven't been to a McDonalds in YEARS, ever since I read Fast Food Nation. *sigh* this is what happens when you read too much...
Sometimes I miss the chemically laden fries...
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Kinda like gettin a donut and a diet coke?

Or smoking while riding your bike?
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Old 04-25-2005, 05:25 PM   #9
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Ralph Nader

When I first heard Ralph Nader speak at local college here. He questioned the audience how many had eaten McDonald's. Naturally,the whole audience raised their hands. When he asked who NEVER ate a McDonald's, he was the only one who never has. I was stunned. I still cannot believe that he has this type of mindset that he won't subject himself to something that everyone else does. I just have to try harder to 'swim upstream'. Thanks Goodweed for the information. If only I would have had this to show the people at the doctor's office and the doctor himself. All we can do is encourage our own children and hope they will know and do better.
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I try to follow the 80/20 principal. If I eat right 80% of the time, exercise properly 80% of the time, I can allow myself a little relaxation of the rules. I still need to lose some weight, but not as much as if I didn't follow my rule. Also, I don't need to feel guilty if I slip a bit.
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What is your opinion of someone who runs to the gym every morning but goes to McDonald's to eat? Does this make sense to you? They want to 'look' good but their ideas of health are not included. Do you think it really matters what you eat? I am beginning to doubt the fact that 'you are what you eat' due to the simple fact the food we buy isn't as nutrional as what it was in the past. I thank you for your input. They have already told me no matter what they eat it doesn't 'show' and so they eat what they want. Is this the purpose of exercise? I am confused.
I would say it depends on the person, their metabolism/activity level. Sure fatty food is not good, but some people need fat in their diets too. I stick with what works for me, and I exercise.
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Thats better than saying you eat like a bird, Most people don't know birds eat twice they're weight in food a day . I may look like I do, and I can tell you what not to eat. I need more exercise. I wish we had a pool to swim in, that would do it for me . There are alot of reasons why people like me are fat. Health reasons, growth hormones they give animals which transfer to us in the meat we eat, things they put in our food to make it taste better and make it cheaper for themselves, what time we eat, eating to much, eating the wrong things, not enough exercise. These are the most common, one or more of these combined. No one in they're right mind would be like this if it was that easy. But everyone needs someone to stand behind them and help them beat the problem, and not be THE PROBLEM.
I have a plan, I quit smoking first which I have , Now it is time to get the Gorilla of my back and chimp out of my tummy.
I had done this before my friend passed away, and gave up for awhile. Now I am back, I will be looking good again. First Drink 32 ounces of water a half hour before eating, add a side salad if you like, remember very little dressing please, Stay away from fatty meat as much as possible, eat little bits 6 to 8 times a day rather than 3 times until you pop. (This is why I hate Buffets or all you can eats.)
no food at least 4 hours before bed time, Find a hobby (metal detecting helped me lose 150 pounds in four monthes). Some people can exercise because they like to, I have to trick myself by doing something fun. I like to golf too, guess I can't rent a cart this summer . be supportive to your (FAT) buddy negative comments are hurtful and just make Us eat more. (besides have you ever had a cow on you ?) Do this and you will have .
I am not a doctor you should always talk to a doctor about this. But it is my plan over the long haul and it doesn't cost you the price of a book.:) Please let me know how you are doing. OK have a nice day!
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(besides have you ever had a cow on you ?) Do this and you will have
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Yep, I know all the right things to eat, know that I should excercise, etc., etc., etc. Just don't do it.
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Yep, I know all the right things to eat, know that I should excercise, etc., etc., etc. Just don't do it.
same here elf. i know what i should eat but i'm a very picky eater. veggies make me gag. i know i should exercise more but i'm lazy. i know that should be no excuse but it's the only one i have.
and personally i don't think people should judge other people for what they eat. my 2 cents.
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i don't see the harm in McD's sometimes, but nomatter how fit
you are, you are not immune from clogged arteries and heart disease, etc. so i think you still have to eat well.
i can eat anything i want and stay very skinny, but i don't eat a lot of fat. it's unhealthy and seems to sit in the stomach, to boot. i love donuts and steak, cheese and whole milk, but only have 1 donut or a few slices of cheese. moderation is all.
exercise- well, i'm not allowed to exercise, lol. that's how skinny i am. but i used to exercise alot, jogging and sit-ups and push-ups. till the doc banned me from exercise, unless it's range of motion stuff.
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