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Old 12-22-2020, 11:29 AM   #1
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Corn Flour, Corn Meal, Masa, Masa Harina?

Hi everyone. I have been trying to learn New Mexican cooking lately. There are a lot of recipes that call for Corn Meal, Masa, Masa Harina, Corn Flour & seems to use these terms interchangeably sometimes.

I know Masa Harina & Masa are the same thing but for example I just seen a recipe that calls for Finely ground corn flour. Is that Masa or is the traditional Corn Meal (but finely ground). I know when they make masa they generally using a lime/water combo to process it so maybe if you use something processed in this way or don't it can' make a difference in texture and/or flavor?

I think in corn meal is its just more coarse & grits are the same but even more coarse.

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Old 12-22-2020, 11:40 AM   #2
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Masa is ground, dried corn dough that was treated with alkali (usually limewater). While some folks might refer to it as corn flour, there IS corn flour that is just corn flour.

Corn meal is just ground corn with a courser texture than flour.

I don't consider any of them interchangeable.
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Old 12-22-2020, 02:48 PM   #3
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To further confuse things I've noticed that EU based cooking shows seem to call cornstarch, corn flour.

In the US corn flour is cornmeal ground to a super fine (flour like) texture and isn't the same as cornstarch.

So confusing.
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Old 12-23-2020, 01:15 AM   #4
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You will sometimes find coarse masa harina for making tamales, while the more common, finer, masa harina is used for corn tortillas. Both of these are made by treating the corn with cal, a.k.a., slaked lime, or calcium hydroxide, mixed with water, to remove the skin. This process is called nixtamalization, which gives the corn its distinctive flavor and aroma. If you can find some tortillas made immediately from grinding this treated corn up, as opposed to drying the corn, grinding it into masa, and re-hydrating it (how most are made) do try it - they cost more, but they are worth it! The manager at the Mexican grocery/restaurant in town introduced me to these, and lets me k know when he gets them in.

In this country a similar product - hominy - is made, using an even stronger alkali solution - sodium hydroxide, or lye. You will often see this name in hominy grits, though all grits are not treated - you can tell if they are by that aroma, though it's not as strong as in masa harina.

Cornmeal is found in many textures, with the more coarse varieties usually sold as polenta, and the finest as corn, though, as noted above, cornstarch is often called corn flour. In Indian markets I find extremely finely ground yellow cornmeal, even finer than masa, called corn flour, plus other grades, as well.
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