"Discover Cooking, Discuss Life."

Go Back   Discuss Cooking - Cooking Forums > General Cooking Information > General Cooking
Click Here to Login
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 10-28-2010, 07:27 AM   #1
Chef Extraordinaire
 
Zhizara's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: New Orleans, LA
Posts: 12,456
Yooper Pasties

First let me ask, what is a Yooper?

That being asked, I gather that pasties are like meat pies. How about some examples and recipes I can try.

I love the idea of meat pies, but after buying a pre-made package of pie crust, it sat in the freezer for a couple of months because I couldn't figure out what to put in a meat pie.

I finally took some leftover meat and vegetables from a soup I made and made little pies. It wasn't very good, but I still get hungry for "pasties" when I keep coming across them in my reading. They just sound so good.
__________________

__________________

If you can't see the bright side of life, polish the dull side.
Zhizara is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2010, 07:37 AM   #2
Senior Cook
 
Hammster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: San Diego, Ca.
Posts: 255
A "Yooper" is from the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. Yooper=Upper.

Pastie is sort of like a meat/veg pie, but in turnover fashion. It can also contain dessert in one end of it. Typically it will contain cubed beef (round steak seems to work well), veg can range from diced potatoes to carrots to rutabagas to turnips. Also some onion, s/p to taste.
The dessert area, if you want to put some in one end, can be something like a pie filling.
They are typically cooked without any liquid inside them and are sauced at the table once cracked open with ketchup or brown gravy.

They were intended as a portable, hearty meal for the Cornish, from Cornwall U.K. miners. Hence the name, Cornish Pasties.

Here are some recipes.
__________________

Hammster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2010, 07:55 AM   #3
Executive Chef
 
Selkie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 3,796
Besides the Cornish Miners version as mentioned by Hammster, pasties, by design, can also be found as Scottish Meat Pies, the same construction as a pastie, but contains a lamb stew. And there's a Scottish-American meat pie that uses ground beef (in place of lamb), onion, carrot, potato and LOTS of black pepper.
__________________
"Food is our common ground, a universal experience." - James Beard
Selkie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2010, 08:04 AM   #4
Senior Cook
 
Hammster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: San Diego, Ca.
Posts: 255
Selkie,
I haven't seen the Scottish ones. I've had Scottish meat pies at Scottish Highland Games here in San Diego (take that for what it's worth) and they were more of a traditional pie shape and not a turnover shape.
Hammster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2010, 08:11 AM   #5
Executive Chef
 
Selkie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 3,796
If you want the turnover shaped pies, go to the L.A. Scottish Games...
__________________
"Food is our common ground, a universal experience." - James Beard
Selkie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2010, 08:16 AM   #6
Senior Cook
 
Hammster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: San Diego, Ca.
Posts: 255
Hah!! LOL. Interesting to know.
Hammster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2010, 09:12 AM   #7
Executive Chef
 
Bolas De Fraile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 3,191
Pies/Pasties

Most area's of the UK have a traditional pie or pastie, the people of Wigan in Lancashire are refered to as Pie Eaters. Melton Mowbray is the home of Pork Pies made with hot water crust pastry.Steak and Kidney pudding is fantastic. The Cornish Pastie or Tiddy Oggy is one of the best.
Bolas De Fraile is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2010, 11:04 AM   #8
Half Baked
 
4meandthem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Bay Area California
Posts: 2,018
Sweeny Todd made a great meat pie!
__________________
Just be yourself! Everyone else is taken.

My Flickr stuff!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/e_maxwell_photography/
4meandthem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2010, 12:57 PM   #9
Mr. Greenjeans
 
bigdaddy3k's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Chicago Area
Posts: 1,741
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammster View Post
A "Yooper" is from the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. Yooper=Upper.

.
Not Upper but for the abbreviation U. P. as in UPer
__________________
No matter how many Bibles he swears on, when a dog tells you he's a vegetarian, he's lying.
bigdaddy3k is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2010, 02:32 PM   #10
Chef Extraordinaire
 
Zhizara's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: New Orleans, LA
Posts: 12,456
Thanks guys. I never would have guessed. I was thinking something like yuppie. Now I know.

I appreciate the recipe site. Now if I can remember how to copy it onto a document so I can make it easier to read and print out for my notebook. Someone told me here so I have to go find the thread/site..

Thanks again.
__________________

If you can't see the bright side of life, polish the dull side.
Zhizara is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2010, 09:53 PM   #11
Head Chef
 
joesfolk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,737
Highlight what you want to copy. Then press control c. Then click on where you want to put the information and then click control v. That should copy your recipe for you. I think.

I warn you , as good as they are pasties are often very dry. Do make a gravy.
joesfolk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2010, 11:08 PM   #12
Chef Extraordinaire
 
taxlady's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: near Montreal, Quebec
Posts: 23,192
Send a message via Skype™ to taxlady
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zhizara View Post
Thanks guys. I never would have guessed. I was thinking something like yuppie. Now I know.

...

Thanks again.
Me too, but I Googled ;)
__________________
May you live as long as you wish and love as long as you live.
Robert A. Heinlein
taxlady is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2010, 07:11 AM   #13
Chef Extraordinaire
 
Zhizara's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: New Orleans, LA
Posts: 12,456
Quote:
Originally Posted by taxlady View Post
Me too, but I Googled ;)
I suppose I could have done that too, but I like getting all the answers from the members here with all the other info and conversations it starts that it didn't even occur to me.

Sally
__________________

If you can't see the bright side of life, polish the dull side.
Zhizara is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2010, 07:15 AM   #14
Chef Extraordinaire
 
Zhizara's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: New Orleans, LA
Posts: 12,456
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zhizara View Post
Thanks guys. I never would have guessed. I was thinking something like yuppie. Now I know.

I appreciate the recipe site. Now if I can remember how to copy it onto a document so I can make it easier to read and print out for my notebook. Someone told me here so I have to go find the thread/site..

Thanks again.
If anyone is interested I did find one way to copy recipes that don't want to be copied.

I used the snippet tool to make a screen shot and pasted it into a document. I wasn't able to edit it, but I was able to enlarge it as a unit by pulling out the "handles", making it easier to read.
__________________

If you can't see the bright side of life, polish the dull side.
Zhizara is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2010, 12:12 PM   #15
Senior Cook
 
snickerdoodle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Quad Cities, Midwest
Posts: 440
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zhizara View Post
I suppose I could have done that too, but I like getting all the answers from the members here with all the other info and conversations it starts that it didn't even occur to me.

Sally
I 100% agree!
snickerdoodle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2010, 01:29 PM   #16
Head Chef
 
sparrowgrass's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Highest point in Missouri
Posts: 1,820
I used to live in iron-mining country in way northern Minnesota. Here is what I learned about pasties. . . .

Miners took pasties underground, because they were portable. Their wives made them with heavy crusts to keep them together, and with a thick edge to hold onto. Miners have dirty hands, so that last little bit of crust that was used as a handle was too dirty to eat. It wasn't wasted, however.

Down in the mines, there are little mischievous guys called tommyknockers--sorta like leprechauns. To keep the tommyknockers happy, miners tossed those dirty bits of crust over their shoulders for the tommyknockers to eat.

Woe betide the miner who didn't do that--he was sure to lose his tools, or his candle would blow out, leaving him in total darkness.
__________________
I just haven't been the same
since that house fell on my sister.
sparrowgrass is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2010, 01:38 PM   #17
Head Chef
 
sparrowgrass's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Highest point in Missouri
Posts: 1,820
Oh--in my part of Minnesota, REAL pasties are made with cubed beef (or venison), some ground beef suet, and cubed potatoes and rutabaga (beggies). I don't remember any onions, but some infidels do put carrots in them.

A friend of mine is Cornish, and he says when his granny made them, she waited til the crust was just browned, cut an X in the top, and poured cream over the filling. Put them back in the oven and cook til the cream bubbles.

My Minnesota friends ate them with ketchup.

Pasty making is a popular fundraiser for churches--the ladies all gather and make hundreds of them, and people buy them by the dozen. They do freeze well.

I find them rather flavorless--I prefer a nice southern chicken pot pie with lots of gravy.
__________________
I just haven't been the same
since that house fell on my sister.
sparrowgrass is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2010, 02:48 PM   #18
Senior Cook
 
Hammster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: San Diego, Ca.
Posts: 255
Quote:
Originally Posted by sparrowgrass View Post
I find them rather flavorless--
That's cause you didn't put onions or carrots in them. ;)
Hammster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2010, 03:14 PM   #19
Chef Extraordinaire
 
Zhizara's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: New Orleans, LA
Posts: 12,456
Quote:
Originally Posted by joesfolk View Post
Highlight what you want to copy. Then press control c. Then click on where you want to put the information and then click control v. That should copy your recipe for you. I think.

I warn you , as good as they are pasties are often very dry. Do make a gravy.
Hey, Joesfolk. It worked!! I never would have thought about that since I always copy/paste using the right click. I'll be smart about it this time and write it down

Thanks for the tip. Kayelle's idea of pasting into an email worked too. It just wouldn't do it using the right click to paste into either a Word or OOo document. Your way is the easiest. Thanks again.
__________________

If you can't see the bright side of life, polish the dull side.
Zhizara is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2010, 10:28 PM   #20
Head Chef
 
joesfolk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,737
I'm glad it worked. I've never heard of the right click thing.
__________________

joesfolk is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:45 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
×